Rumor: Albert to the Dolphins

[Titty Meat]

*Albert

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-the-dolphins/

So that great 08' draft class won 0 playoff games and 3 of the better players from that draft are no longer on the team. Thanks Pioli.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

[Mugsy]

Originally Posted by SNR

We didn't make the playoffs 8 years in a row.

You're right, it was seven in a row and not eight. I'll take that kind of consistency every time over one playoff appearance every 3-4 years.

I'd love to be the Braves for example. Fourteen playoff appearances in a row with one World Series win is nice. Maybe better than two world series wins in three years and no playoffs for the next eleven?

It's nice when your team is consistently good and in the hunt.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Milliner finished the year with his 3 best games and was the Week 17 DPOW. Fisher finished the year in the ****ing hot tub. AND we had our best offensive performance of the year without him. Imagine that.



We could have had Cooper AND Milliner. I didn't say anything about Cooper. And yes, I absolutely would have rather had Milliner than Fisher.

So 3 seemingly decent games makes him great? Wtf? Doesn't seem like you even watched him play. His 2 INTs against the Phins were flukes.

1st one Wallace fell down on a curl route, easy pick for Milliner to make.

2nd one Tannehill had pressure in his face and forced an overthrown pass to Wallace into a group of 5 Jet Defenders and only 2 Dolphins.

Milliner was terrible for pretty much the entire season and the only reason why he was even starting was because the Jets picked him at #9 overall to replace Revis and didn't want to look bad in making that mistake of a pick. He was benched 3 times for a former UDFA; Rex, the guy coaching for his job, pulled and benched a player that his GM hand-picked at #9 overall in the draft for a UDFA multiple times in the season.

If that doesn't tell you how bad Milliner was, I don't know what else will, lol.

Seems like all you did was look at his stats and went, "Oh, those look decent for a rookie. Musta been good."

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Mugsy

You're right, it was seven in a row and not eight. I'll take that kind of consistency every time over one playoff appearance every 3-4 years.

I'd love to be the Braves for example. Fourteen playoff appearances in a row with one World Series win is nice. Maybe better than two world series wins in three years and no playoffs for the next eleven?

It's nice when your team is consistently good and in the hunt.

Playoff appearances don't mean much if the team isn't built to win once you get there.

The Braves comparison isn't valid because the Braves managed to win a championship in there. We didn't. And no, 14 playoff appearances with 1 championship is not better than 2 championships in 3 years and then 10 years without. I'd trade place with the Broncos ANY DAY. 1997-1998 is still PLENTY fresh.

And finally, let's not kid ourselves. This team hasn't been "in the hunt" since Joe Montana left.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I'm sure it had nothing to do with that fact that people like you were here telling us how "safe" it was. What a ****ing turd of a pick.

Unfortunately, it really was as "safe" as you could have gone in that draft.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

So 3 seemingly decent games makes him great? Wtf? Doesn't seem like you even watched him play. His 2 INTs against the Phins were flukes.

1st one Wallace fell down on a curl route, easy pick for Milliner to make.

2nd one Tannehill had pressure in his face and forced an overthrown pass to Wallace into a group of 5 Jet Defenders and only 2 Dolphins.

Milliner was terrible for pretty much the entire season and the only reason why he was even starting was because the Jets picked him at #9 overall to replace Revis and didn't want to look bad in making that mistake of a pick. He was benched 3 times for a former UDFA; Rex, the guy coaching for his job, pulled and benched a player that his GM hand-picked at #9 overall in the draft for a UDFA multiple times in the season.

If that doesn't tell you how bad Milliner was, I don't know what else will, lol.

Seems like all you did was look at his stats and went, "Oh, those look decent for a rookie. Musta been good."

Dude, I didn't say he was great. I said I'd rather have him than Fisher.

Stop acting like a moron.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

Unfortunately, it really was as "safe" as you could have gone in that draft.

Safe is for pussies.

No surprise this team hasn't won shit in decades.

[OldSchool]

And by all means, be the GM that drafts the mediocre Milliner #1 overall when you just signed FAs Sean Smith and Dunta Robinson. Yeah, woulda been such a good move.

[Messier]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

I think the 2008 draft hurts a ton. Could have taken:

Ryan Clady over Glenn Dorsey.

Aquib Talib/DRC over Albert.

Then, here's the kicker:

Calais Campbell over Flowers.

Clady>> Albert

Talib/DRC>> Flowers

Campbell>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dorsey

Yeah. You can play this game with any draft any year. You're the first I've seen to question the Flowers pick. Also Charles >>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone you mentioned.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

And by all means, be the GM that drafts the mediocre Milliner #1 overall when you just signed FAs Sean Smith and Dunta Robinson. Yeah, woulda been such a good move.

Better than drafting a mediocre right tackle when you already had Branden Albert, Donald Stephenson, and 3 other high draft picks on the line.

You're not going to win this argument. Fisher was a horrible pick. There's no other way to look at it unless you're just a ****ing homer.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

Unfortunately, it really was as "safe" as you could have gone in that draft.

The point is that going "safe" at 1.1 in a draft that doesn't have a true sure thing is kind of counter-intuitive.

That going "safe" helps you build a solid team but makes it more difficult to find true stars and build an outstanding team.

[Mugsy]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Playoff appearances don't mean much if the team isn't built to win once you get there.

The Braves comparison isn't valid because the Braves managed to win a championship in there. We didn't. And no, 14 playoff appearances with 1 championship is not better than 2 championships in 3 years and then 10 years without. I'd trade place with the Broncos ANY DAY. 1997-1998 is still PLENTY fresh.

And finally, let's not kid ourselves. This team hasn't been "in the hunt" since Joe Montana left.

It is for me. The losing really wore me out and took my passion. I'm just not a true fan anymore and I try to look at the big picture. I just want to win. I don't care how we do it. It's a lot easier to be invested when we are winning consistently.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

The point is that going "safe" at 1.1 in a draft that doesn't have a true sure thing is kind of counter-intuitive.

That going "safe" helps you build a solid team but makes it more difficult to find true stars and build an outstanding team.

They don't want an outstanding team. They want a repeat of the 90's.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Mugsy

It is for me. The losing really wore me out and took my passion. I'm just not a true fan anymore and I try to look at the big picture. I just want to win. I don't care how we do it. It's a lot easier to be invested when we are winning consistently.

Winning in the regular season rings hollow when you never come close to winning a championship.

The "big picture" is that outside of the Lions, Royals, and a few other teams, the Chiefs playoff drought is one of the worst in ALL of professional sports, not just football.

[htismaqe]

By the way, that's a perfect example of a "2nd place attitude".

You'd rather win in the regular season consistently than win it all. Talk about defeatist.