2014 NFL Combine - Players - The TEs

htismaqe · 03-12-2014, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by planetdoc

than you probably want someone in free agency and not the draft. Its going to take awhile for a rookie to get up to speed to the NFL game as well as learning Andy Reid's large and complex playbook.

Ebron and Amaro could provide immediate impact in spots and be fully ready to go by year 2.

Besides, lets not sit here and pretend that Lyerla's only problems are developmental.

There's no reason to be interested in a guy like that at all.

planetdoc · 03-12-2014, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Ebron and Amaro could provide immediate impact in spots and be fully ready to go by year 2.

1. thats an assumption.
2. you never defined what "impact" exactly is.
3. Amaro was used more as a slot wr than a TE. He has a big learning curve.
4. Here is a list of the receiving #s for rookie TE Low draft pick TE made a "bigger impact" than the early draft picks.

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Besides, lets not sit here and pretend that Lyerla's only problems are developmental.

1. you are the only one in this conversation using the term "developmental." Please re-read your posts and my posts.

2. I have already alluded to his drug problem (cocaine) and said I expect him to be a late draft pick.

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There's no reason to be interested in a guy like that at all.

he is very athletic and a good receiving TE. If you only judge a person by prior drug history and not on the individual himself, than the chiefs would have missed out on Justin houston. Current chiefs such as Hali and Bowe have also had run-ins with the law from use of illegal drugs.

htismaqe · 03-12-2014, 01:38 PM

As if marijuana is anything at all like cocaine.

planetdoc · 03-12-2014, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

As if marijuana is anything at all like cocaine.

they are both federally illegal in the U.S.
one is a schedule 1 drug while the other is schedule II in the U.S.

as if you are able to justify your opinions with anything other than emoticons.

htismaqe · 03-12-2014, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by planetdoc

they are both federally illegal in the U.S.
one is a schedule 1 drug while the other is schedule II in the U.S.

as if you are able to justify your opinions with anything other than emoticons.

They have completely different metabolic and psychoactive effects and the people that use them have completely different behavior profiles.

I use emoticons because there aren't any crayons here. I have to keep it simple for you.

planetdoc · 03-12-2014, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

They have completely different metabolic and psychoactive effects and the people that use them have completely different behavior profiles.

yes, but your statement shown below is still clearly wrong.

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

As if marijuana is anything at all like cocaine.

you are speaking in absolutes. that is incorrect.

Although there have been players with cocaine problems who were unsuccessful in the NFL, there have been others who have been very successful such as Dan Marino.

you are nieve if you think that their is not drug use (other than marijuana) in the NFL.

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I use emoticons because there aren't any crayons here. I have to keep it simple for you.

please go ahead and use crayons on your screen.

Sorter · 03-12-2014, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by planetdoc

yes, but your statement shown below is still clearly wrong.

you are speaking in absolutes. that is incorrect.

Although there have been players with cocaine problems who were unsuccessful in the NFL, there have been others who have been very successful such as Dan Marino.

you are nieve if you think that their is not drug use (other than marijuana) in the NFL.

please go ahead and use crayons on your screen.

Saccopoo · 03-12-2014, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Ebron and Amaro could provide immediate impact in spots and be fully ready to go by year 2.

Besides, lets not sit here and pretend that Lyerla's only problems are developmental.

There's no reason to be interested in a guy like that at all.

Amaro looked freaking horrible at the combine. Just flat bad. Couldn't catch anything and really didn't look good on his breaks.

I'm more than satisfied going ahead with Kelce versus drafting a potentially worse alternative in Amaro when there is a hell of a lot more need at WR, OL, DL, DB.

htismaqe · 03-12-2014, 10:09 PM

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Amaro looked freaking horrible at the combine. Just flat bad. Couldn't catch anything and really didn't look good on his breaks.

One bad workout doesn't erase the entirety of his college body of work.

I remember when people said "he got creamed at the Senior Bowl" about Tamba Hali.

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I'm more than satisfied going ahead with Kelce versus drafting a potentially worse alternative in Amaro when there is a hell of a lot more need at WR, OL, DL, DB.

Potentially LIGHT YEARS better, too. Don't forget that.

**Easy 6** · 03-29-2014, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Amaro looked freaking horrible at the combine. Just flat bad. Couldn't catch anything and really didn't look good on his breaks.

I'm more than satisfied going ahead with Kelce versus drafting a potentially worse alternative in Amaro when there is a hell of a lot more need at WR, OL, DL, DB.

It doesn't have to be Amaro, but I for one will be extremely disappointed and shocked if we don't grab a TE between 1 and 4, especially if we somehow end up with DeSean Jackson... counting on Kelce is a straight up roll of the dice.

TE is too important in this offense, and to Smith, to leave to chance IMO.

Saccopoo · 03-29-2014, 08:05 PM

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It doesn't have to be Amaro, but I for one will be extremely disappointed and shocked if we don't grab a TE between 1 and 4, especially if we somehow end up with DeSean Jackson... counting on Kelce is a straight up roll of the dice.

TE is too important in this offense, and to Smith, to leave to chance IMO.

I don't think a tight end rotation of Fasano, Kelce and McGrath is leaving it to chance.

Consider that McGrath effectively played only one year of college football at a school smaller than most average high schools and was quite effective in getting open, catching the ball and turning up-field against NFL defenders in what was his rookie season. That speaks of a whole hell of a lot of upside yet to come.

And Fasano is a very solid all-around NFL tight end.

If Kelce is cleared medically, I have absolutely no qualms about fielding that trio as our TE group and think that using a draft pick on a tight end is tantamount to throwing it in the trash bin. Especially after using a very high third on Kelce in last years draft.

Now, if Kelce still has medical issues, then, by all means, I hope that they select a tight end.

**Easy 6** · 03-29-2014, 08:18 PM

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I don't think a tight end rotation of Fasano, Kelce and McGrath is leaving it to chance.

Consider that McGrath effectively played only one year of college football at a school smaller than most average high schools and was quite effective in getting open, catching the ball and turning up-field against NFL defenders in what was his rookie season. That speaks of a whole hell of a lot of upside yet to come.

And Fasano is a very solid all-around NFL tight end.

If Kelce is cleared medically, I have absolutely no qualms about fielding that trio as our TE group and think that using a draft pick on a tight end is tantamount to throwing it in the trash bin. Especially after using a very high third on Kelce in last years draft.

Now, if Kelce still has medical issues, then, by all means, I hope that they select a tight end.

Sorry dude, but that current trio sucks balls...

Kelce is a complete unknown, he may NEVER fully recover from the microfracture, those are notoriously hard to fix.

McGrath, so far, is the only proven decent player of the three... he's no great shakes but showed signs of being a viable #2 with decent all around skills.

Fasano though? dude has been an absolute bust for us and sucked during his last year in Miami as well... 8.1ypc is AWFUL, its just awful, and he didn't do much better than that during his brief healthy periods here, we could cut him today and I wouldn't blink an eye.

Dump him and get a young playmaker in the draft, THATS a trio I could live with.

**Easy 6** · 03-29-2014, 08:27 PM

And even if Kelce DOES fully recover, we still don't know if the guy is any freaking good... like I said, HUGE gamble.

jd1020 · 04-24-2014, 12:38 PM

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And Fasano is a very solid all-around NFL tight end.

Only Sacc would consider a guy who's managed just 2 complete seasons and 1 year with more than 500 yards a "very solid all-around NFL tight end."

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