**** The Official Badguy what have you heard thread ****

[Titty Meat]

Agents can talk to teams tomorrow and sign Tuesday. The Badguy is our Adam Schefnter.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I wouldn't get your hopes up about Donald. He's going to be gone by the first 15 picks.

If they sign Sanders, find a way to get Melton, and sign some depth at FS, I think they have to either go corner or pass rusher.

In any normal draft, I'd agree whole heatedly...but this is like a draft on crack.

I think there is a real chance he drops to us.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

What I'm tired of reading is how the Chiefs have to budget for the future so they can afford extensions for Houston, Berry, Charles, Poe and Alex.

Dorsey went on a Supermarket Sweep shopping spree last year and signed complete meh players like Daniels, Fasano and then tagged Albert, when it probably wasn't absolutely necessary if you let him walk the year after. He should have stopped playing hardball with Miami. He knew what bills were coming due in 2015.

It's like they use it as an excuse not to upgrade now. I don't give a **** about Denver, or who else has upgraded.

You don't sit on your ass after the playoff loss to the Colts or coming off an 11-5 season when this team needs to establish constant winning and completely change a culture.

The 49ers and Seahawks have big time cap juggling coming up, yet, they still are upgrading despite having to pay some guys on rookie deals.

I'm just sick of reading how 2015 will be great. **** that. I could be dead by then. Sign some quality people now, keep an eye on the future, but play for ****ing 2014.

Sorry, off my soapbox now. Just annoyed.

Apart from Alex Smith, though, it was our high priced free agents last year that were disappointing, and it was our scrap heap guys that ended up being Dorsey's best moves.

For as much bitching as there's been about losing Geoff Schwartz, let's not forget that it was signing a backup swing Guard/Tackle that supposedly turned our entire offensive line around. I really don't care if we stay out of the high-priced free agent market if Dorsey is extremely active and smart in picking from the second and third waves.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

What I'm tired of reading is how the Chiefs have to budget for the future so they can afford extensions for Houston, Berry, Charles, Poe and Alex.

Dorsey went on a Supermarket Sweep shopping spree last year and signed complete meh players like Daniels, Fasano and then tagged Albert, when it probably wasn't absolutely necessary if you let him walk the year after. He should have stopped playing hardball with Miami. He knew what bills were coming due in 2015.

It's like they use it as an excuse not to upgrade now. I don't give a **** about Denver, or who else has upgraded.

You don't sit on your ass after the playoff loss to the Colts or coming off an 11-5 season when this team needs to establish constant winning and completely change a culture.

The 49ers and Seahawks have big time cap juggling coming up, yet, they still are upgrading despite having to pay some guys on rookie deals.

I'm just sick of reading how 2015 will be great. **** that. I could be dead by then. Sign some quality people now, keep an eye on the future, but play for ****ing 2014.

Sorry, off my soapbox now. Just annoyed.

I've never had a sig on here before but if I did I would put this entire quote in it

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Apart from Alex Smith, though, it was our high priced free agents last year that were disappointing, and it was our scrap heap guys that ended up being Dorsey's best moves.

For as much bitching as there's been about losing Geoff Schwartz, let's not forget that it was signing a backup swing Guard/Tackle that supposedly turned our entire offensive line around. I really don't care if we stay out of the high-priced free agent market if Dorsey is extremely active and smart in picking from the second and third waves.

scrap heap guys aka we were #1 at the waiver priority so we took advantage of what the good NFL teams cut first.

something Fat Scott should have done the four years he was here but he has a Fat Ego. Dorsey was just doing what anyone with a normal brain should do in that position, but because you were never used to it or seen it done under Fat Scott, you think it's some genius strategy that led to taking advantage of being #1 on the waiver and having first dibs on everyone after training camp.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Apart from Alex Smith, though, it was our high priced free agents last year that were disappointing, and it was our scrap heap guys that ended up being Dorsey's best moves.

For as much bitching as there's been about losing Geoff Schwartz, let's not forget that it was signing a backup swing Guard/Tackle that supposedly turned our entire offensive line around. I really don't care if we stay out of the high-priced free agent market if Dorsey is extremely active and smart in picking from the second and third waves.

I don't care about who we lost either. I didn't think any of them would be back.

I just want upgrades in places and I don't want 2015 to be an excuse as to why we don't get them.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

I've never had a sig on here before but if I did I would put this entire quote in it

Thanks man. Respect your football takes a lot on here.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

scrap heap guys aka we were #1 at the waiver priority so we took advantage of what the good NFL teams cut first.

something Fat Scott should have done the four years he was here but he has a Fat Ego. Dorsey was just doing what anyone with a normal brain should do in that position, but because you were never used to it or seen it done under Fat Scott, you think it's some genius strategy that led to taking advantage of being #1 on the waiver and having first dibs on everyone after training camp.

You can keep repeating this comment. It's never going to stop being dumb.

Because Ron Parker, Marcus Cooper, and Sean McGrath were "can't miss" players when Dorsey picked them up. So I guess Dorsey should get no credit for it.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Thanks man. Respect your football takes a lot on here.

That's what I've been saying. **** the future. This is a win now league. I'm not saying go pay someone haynesworth money but sign Sanders, sign a TE that is competent, get another pass rusher and go get ****ing Alex Mack to anchor our offensive line. We can juggle the money. Winners do it. The ****ing steelers have been in cap hell the past decade.

[The Bad Guy]

There's no way Alex Mack can happen. Cleveland has shitloads of cap space and want to retain him.

[BossChief]

Alex Mack is gonna get a lot more than he's worth.

He's a really good center, but I wouldn't give him more than 5/yr and somebody will offer a lot more than that.

If we want a center, a much more logical choice would be Evan Deitrich Smith.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

There's no way Alex Mack can happen. Cleveland has shitloads of cap space and want to retain him.

I've read his agent are working hard to get him out. Trying to structure it in a certain way (contract)

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Alex Mack is gonna get a lot more than he's worth.

He's a really good center, but I wouldn't give him more than 5/yr and somebody will offer a lot more than that.

If we want a center, a much more logical choice would be Evan Deitrich Smith.

Ok, well insert center name into that and disregard Mack. I'm tired of having a pussy offensive line.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

You can keep repeating this comment. It's never going to stop being dumb.

Because Ron Parker, Marcus Cooper, and Sean McGrath were "can't miss" players when Dorsey picked them up. So I guess Dorsey should get no credit for it.

That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that scrap heap haul from last year was special and beneficial because we were #1 in the waiver wire and Dorsey actually did his job as a GM to pluck talent from deep rosters. Something Fat Scott NEVER did. Dorsey took 7 Fat Scott players he could give a shit less about and cut them for those guys. Fat Scott would never cut 7 of his draft picks for talent from someone else's team, because he had an ego.

You seem to think this is a model we can sustain every year, I'm telling you we are not going to add 7 scrappers and subtract 7 Pioli picks every year like that off the waiver wire.

Dorsey is going to have to creative now that we are winning. We don't get a player like Marcus Cooper sitting 23rd on the waiver after training camp. You seem to think we will, I don't. That's the nature of the business.

[Mother****erJones]

If we take a corner he better be Revis or Sherman-esque

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I don't care about who we lost either. I didn't think any of them would be back.

I just want upgrades in places and I don't want 2015 to be an excuse as to why we don't get them.

I don't think anybody on CP is saying rebuild or save for 2015. I think we're all acknowledging that building a team through the first wave of free agency is overrated. And the reaction on CP has been nuts. We've spent 5 years flipping out about the low value of Guards, Centers, Right Tackles, and 5-techniques, and now all of a sudden people are freaked out about losing them.

I get what you're saying. I just don't think you have to spend money to do it. I would be a lot more ecstatic if Dorsey brings in a ton of value players than I would if he brought in 1 or 2 players and nobody else. What I'm tired of, is a team that has 5 starters who don't belong on the field and a bench full of 5th stringers. And high priced free agency doesn't solve that problem.