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Old 02-20-2014, 02:49 PM  
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2014 NFL Combine - Players - The DT

Defensive Tackles:

Jay Bromley, Syracuse
6'3", 306 lb., 33 1/2" arms
Bench: 26
40: 5.06
Vertical: 33.5"
Broad: 8'10"
3 Cone: 7.92

Ryan Carrethers, Arkansas State
6'1", 337 lb., 31 3/4" arms
Bench: 32
40: 5.47
Vertical: 7'4"
Broad: 26"
3 Cone: 7.89

Deandre Coleman, California
6'5", 314 lb., 34 3/8" arms
Bench: 24
40: DNP
Vertical: DNP
Broad: DNP
3 Cone: DNP

Aaron Donald, Pittsburgh
6'1", 285 lb., 32 5/8" arms
Bench: 35
40: 4.68
Vertical: 32"
Broad: 9'8"
3 Cone: 7.11

Dominique Easley, Florida
6'2", 288 lb., 32 7/8" arms
Bench: 26
40: DNP
Vertical: DNP
Broad: DNP
3 Cone: DNP

Justin Ellis, Louisiana Tech
6'1", 334 lb., 33" arms
Bench: 28
40: 5.27
Vertical: 28"
Broad: 7'8"
3 Cone: 7.81

Ego Ferguson, LSU
6'3", 315 lb., 32 1/2" arms
Bench: 24
40: DNP
Vertical: DNP
Broad: DNP
3 Cone: DNP

Ra'shede Hageman Minnesota
6'6", 310 lb., 34 1/4" arms
Bench: 32
40: 5.02
Vertical: 35.5"
Broad: 9'6"
3 Cone: 7.87

Kerry Hyder, Texas Tech
6'2", 290 lb., 33 1/2" arms
Bench: 20
40: 5.10
Vertical: 29.5"
Broad: 9'0"
3 Cone: 7.23

Anthony Johnson, LSU
6'2", 308 lb., 32 7/8" arms
Bench: 20
40: 5.24
Vertical: 24.5"
Broad: 9'6"
3 Cone: 7.93

Daquan Jones, Penn State
6'4", 322 lb., 33 1/2" arms
Bench: 21
40: 5.35
Vertical: 27.5"
Broad: 9'5"
3 Cone: 7.16

Zach Kerr, Delaware
6'1", 326 lb., 32 7/8" arms
Bench: 28
40: 5.08
Vertical: 28.5"
Broad: 8'3"
3 Cone: 7.93

Dan McCullers, Tennessee
6'7", 352 lb., 36 5/8" arms
Bench: 27
40: DNP
Vertical: 20.5"
Broad: 8'1"
3 Cone: DNP

Louis Nix, Notre Dame
6'2", 331 lb., 33" arms
Bench: DNP
40: 5.42
Vertical: 25.5"
Broad: 8'1"
3 Cone: 8.29

Tenny Palepoi, Utah
6'1", 298 lb., 30 1/2" arms
Bench: 31
40: 5.10
Vertical: 30.5"
Broad: 9'3"
3 Cone: 7.67

Mike Pennel, CSU-Pueblo
6'4", 332 lb., 33 3/8" arms
Bench: 23
40: 5.23
Vertical: 28.5"
Broad: 8'6"
3 Cone: 7.94

Kelcy Quarles, South Carolina
6'4", 297 lb., 33 1/4" arms
Bench: 27
40: 5.03
Vertical: 23.5"
Broad: 8'6"
3 Cone: DNP

Caraun Reid, Princeton
6'2", 302 lb., 33" arms
Bench: 20
40: 4.91
Vertical: 26.5"
Broad: 8'10"
3 Cone: 7.59"

Shamar Stephen, Connecticut
6'5", 309 lb., 33 1/8" arms
Bench: 25
40: 5.25
Vertical: 30.5"
Broad: 8'7"
3 Cone: DNP

Will Sutton, Arizona State
6'0", 303 lb., 31 1/4" arms
Bench: 24
40: 5.36
Vertical: 28.5"
Broad: 8'3"
3 Cone: 7.93

Robert Thomas, Arkansas
6'1", 327 lb., 33 7/8" arms
Bench: 32
40: DNP
Vertical: DNP
Broad: DNP
3 Cone: DNP

Khyri Thornton, Southern Mississippi
6'3", 304 lb., 32 1/2" arms
Bench: 28
40: 5.03
Vertical: 29"
Broad: 9'4"
3 Cone: 7.83

Brent Urban, Virginia
6'7", 295 lb., 34 1/4" arms
Bench: DNP
40: DNP
Vertical: DNP
Broad: DNP
3 Cone: DNP

Chris Whaley, Texas
6'3", 269 lb., 32 1/8" arms
Bench: DNP
40: DNP
Vertical: DNP
Broad: DNP
3 Cone: DNP

Kerry Wynn, Richmond
6'5", 266 lb., 31 3/4" arms
Bench: 31
40: 4.97
Vertical: 34"
Broad: 9'5"
3 Cone: DNP

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Old 04-02-2014, 11:10 AM   #31
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As I've said before, Donald is undersized to play a 3-4DE. I know many here see him as a 3 tech. Nonetheless, I dont see him as a fit for the chiefs defense.
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Old 04-02-2014, 02:57 PM   #32
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When you're only selecting guys that "fit" your defense, you're bound to miss out on good football players.

If a guy is that talented, fit your scheme to him. It's not as if he'd sit in the 3 tech fr games on end. We've been thru this.
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Old 04-02-2014, 03:18 PM   #33
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If a guy is that talented, fit your scheme to him. It's not as if he'd sit in the 3 tech fr games on end. We've been thru this.
we have been through this.

1. the chiefs have already gone on record that they are not changing the scheme.

2. a defense is supposed to work as a unit like a puzzle. Your advocating changing the other puzzle pieces for the benefit of your 1 piece.
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Old 04-02-2014, 03:19 PM   #34
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we have been through this.

1. the chiefs have already gone on record that they are not changing the scheme.

2. a defense is supposed to work as a unit like a puzzle. Your advocating changing the other puzzle pieces for the benefit of your 1 piece.
Yeah, we only run the 3-4.
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Old 04-02-2014, 03:25 PM   #35
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we have been through this.

1. the chiefs have already gone on record that they are not changing the scheme.

2. a defense is supposed to work as a unit like a puzzle. Your advocating changing the other puzzle pieces for the benefit of your 1 piece.
If we sat in a 34 base every down, you'd hav a point. We just signed a free agent dl that doesn't really "fit" the 34 either.
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Old 04-02-2014, 04:14 PM   #36
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If we sat in a 34 base every down, you'd hav a point. We just signed a free agent dl that doesn't really "fit" the 34 either.
@ 305 lbs he fits a lot better than a just under 6'1'' 285 lb under 33" arm Aaron Donald.
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For those of you who are wanting Aaron Donald, why couldnt the chiefs just use Tamba Hali in that capacity? (inside on pass rushing downs)

Hali is about the same size, played DT in college, and has shown NFL pass rushing ability. Then the chiefs could find a younger/quicker pass rusher for the edge (OLB). It would be a win/win. Hali doesnt really have the speed to bend the edge anymore (he wins on hustle and technique), but is still very experienced and would provide more immediate production than a rookie.
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Old 04-02-2014, 11:20 PM   #38
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Aaron Donald would get his ass kicked as a five tech. Period.
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Aaron Donald would get his ass kicked as a five tech. Period.
That'd be awesome if it were a technique KC played with great frequency.


It amazes me how you refuse to learn anything. You make some excellent posts and then get stuck into these ****ing principles from the 90s that even Crennel doesn't adhere to.

I just don't get it.
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That'd be awesome if it were a technique KC played with great frequency.
what is the data behind this? How many plays (or what percent of plays) did the chiefs use a 5-tech for the 2013 season? I suspect that the chiefs did use a 5-tech with great frequency.
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what is the data behind this? How many plays (or what percent of plays) did the chiefs use a 5-tech for the 2013 season? I suspect that the chiefs did use a 5-tech with great frequency.
False. Devito played less than 40% of the defensive snaps last year and he was our "starting" LDE 5-tech.

Jackson played a little more at 45% of the snaps, he had a few more opportunities in sub packages than Devito did before our coaches decided that he sucked at pass rushing.

We spent a hell of a lot more time in sub packages than we did in our "base" 3-4 defense, and even then our DEs didn't always line up as true 5-techs.
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False. Devito played less than 40% of the defensive snaps last year and he was our "starting" LDE 5-tech.

Jackson played a little more at 45% of the snaps, he had a few more opportunities in sub packages than Devito did before our coaches decided that he sucked at pass rushing.

We spent a hell of a lot more time in sub packages than we did in our "base" 3-4 defense, and even then our DEs didn't always line up as true 5-techs.
Sutton often refers to our "base" defense as "multiples".

While we employ a majority 30-front, we're moving guys all over the place.
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Sutton often refers to our "base" defense as "multiples".

While we employ a majority 30-front, we're moving guys all over the place.
Yup, which is why the people who hate on Donald and keep saying he wouldn't have a place on this defense or would be a bad fit annoy the hell out of me.

Only constants in the front 7 last year were Johnson, Hali, Poe, and Houston (when healthy). I guess you could throw Berry in there too.
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Yup, which is why the people who hate on Donald and keep saying he wouldn't have a place on this defense or would be a bad fit annoy the hell out of me.
Well, Sutton came from the Jets. One only has to watch the Jets for about 2 quarters before they get it.

The Jets run about as many defensive sets as any team ever has. They employ both 1 and 2-gap. They run 3-4, they run 4-3 under. The coaching staff has borrowed from pretty much ever stop they've been at and they have experience with New England's style as well as the earlier Parcell's method.

And I'd MUCH rather have Donald than Hageman.
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