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Old 04-14-2014, 06:35 PM   #1
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Surely you don't mean keep drafting QB's in the first round. What are the odds of hitting on a Manning/franchise guy? One in ten? Twenty? So, you keep drafting first-round QB's?

I only comment because I've heard this floated on the radio before, and it's garbage. Hopefully I misunderstood what you were saying.
If the QB is the BPA, you do, and for QBs I'd give a generous curve. That doesn't mean reaching. You don't have to get a Peyton Manning elite QB. Right now, the Chiefs need a QBOTF and while Alex Smith was better than I expected, he can be upgraded too. You keep using picks on QBs because even if you find a QB just a little bit better than Alex Smith, QB is so important that that's a huge upgrade.
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Old 04-14-2014, 07:41 PM   #2
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If the QB is the BPA, you do, and for QBs I'd give a generous curve. That doesn't mean reaching. You don't have to get a Peyton Manning elite QB. Right now, the Chiefs need a QBOTF and while Alex Smith was better than I expected, he can be upgraded too. You keep using picks on QBs because even if you find a QB just a little bit better than Alex Smith, QB is so important that that's a huge upgrade.
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Old 04-14-2014, 07:58 PM   #3
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The Packers drafted Brian Brohm in the second round and then spent a first rounder on Rodgers while they still had Favre.

The Eagles drafted Kevin Kolb in the early second and took on Mike Vick while they still had McNabb...then drafted Foles in the third.

Both sides of the team building nucleus the Chiefs have in place believe in drafting quarterbacks over and over, especially with premium picks.
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Old 04-14-2014, 08:05 PM   #4
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The Packers drafted Brian Brohm in the second round and then spent a first rounder on Rodgers while they still had Favre.

The Eagles drafted Kevin Kolb in the early second and took on Mike Vick while they still had McNabb...then drafted Foles in the third.

Both sides of the team building nucleus the Chiefs have in place believe in drafting quarterbacks over and over, especially with premium picks.
How many years in a row did they pick a QB? Chiefzilla says "you keep doing it", as in every year. What team drafts a QB high every year, year in year out? All you have to do is name one. Should be easy, since that is how "you do it", right?
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Old 04-14-2014, 09:24 PM   #5
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How many years in a row did they pick a QB? Chiefzilla says "you keep doing it", as in every year. What team drafts a QB high every year, year in year out? All you have to do is name one. Should be easy, since that is how "you do it", right?
He didn't say every year. You're puttin words in his mouth
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Old 04-14-2014, 11:06 PM   #6
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He didn't say every year. You're puttin words in his mouth
He said "you keep draftng QBs", what do you think he meant by that?
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Old 04-14-2014, 11:05 PM   #7
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How many years in a row did they pick a QB? Chiefzilla says "you keep doing it", as in every year. What team drafts a QB high every year, year in year out? All you have to do is name one. Should be easy, since that is how "you do it", right?
I said they should draft a QB high if he's BPA, and that that BPA should be more generous given the positional value.

When did I say it was easy to find a QBOTF? The fact that it's hard to find a great QB is the exactly the reason to keep trying. And be pretty aggressive about it. The 49ers had Alex Smith and still chose to draft Kaepernick. The Seahawks whiffed on a 3rd round trade and 20-pick 2nd round swap for Whitehurst, completely whiffed on a huge contract for Matt Flynn, whiffed on a big contract for Tavaris Jackson, and still had the guts to use another high pick to draft Russell Wilson.
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Old 04-14-2014, 11:07 PM   #8
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I said they should draft a QB high if he's BPA, and that that BPA should be more generous given the positional value.

When did I say it was easy to find a QBOTF? The fact that it's hard to find a great QB is the exactly the reason to keep trying. And be pretty aggressive about it. The 49ers had Alex Smith and still chose to draft Kaepernick. The Seahawks whiffed on a 3rd round trade and 20-pick 2nd round swap for Whitehurst, completely whiffed on a huge contract for Matt Flynn, whiffed on a big contract for Tavaris Jackson, and still had the guts to use another high pick to draft Russell Wilson.
You said "you keep drafting QBs". You didn't mean every year?
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Old 04-14-2014, 11:51 PM   #9
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You said "you keep drafting QBs". You didn't mean every year?
I don't know if it means every year. However many times you get a QB that falls to you BPA. Unless you have a hall of fame QB or you're oozing with talent at QB, there is always opportunity to get better. How many failed QB experiments do you think it took Seattle and Philly to find their guys?
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Old 04-14-2014, 08:58 PM   #10
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The Packers drafted Brian Brohm in the second round and then spent a first rounder on Rodgers while they still had Favre.

The Eagles drafted Kevin Kolb in the early second and took on Mike Vick while they still had McNabb...then drafted Foles in the third.

Both sides of the team building nucleus the Chiefs have in place believe in drafting quarterbacks over and over, especially with premium picks.
Nice work.
Maybe they will then. I just feel Reid has so much faith in Smith that a pick on a QB here would be a waste sitting on the bench. If the chiefs had a full complementary of picks + I think it might be more plausible.

Btw, I turned to my son and his friend the second we heard of the Vick trade and said, Reid wants him to be his starter! I was right on that one.
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Old 04-14-2014, 08:04 PM   #11
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Chiefs Planet Drafturbators since 2008 when we secured the future of the franchise on the defensive front by drafting Glenn Dorsey. Every year following, it was required to fawn over QB's who will end up as epic level busts...







Tannehill's fate is yet to be determined, but if history holds, he's going to begin his digressive slide to doom starting in 2014.
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Chiefs Planet Drafturbators since 2008 when we secured the future of the franchise on the defensive front by drafting Glenn Dorsey. Every year following, it was required to fawn over QB's who will end up as epic level busts...









Tannehill's fate is yet to be determined, but if history holds, he's going to begin his digressive slide to doom starting in 2014.
(fixed that for you)

It is funny how things have worked out on ChiefsPlanet, that the position that we need to spend a high draft pick on a QB (which is true) has been so consistently embarrassed by the board groupthink latching on to QBs who fail. You can set your watch to it.

Who really cares, I guess, but it's funny how this crowd can't pick a winner to save our lives.
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Old 04-15-2014, 08:29 AM   #13
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(fixed that for you)

It is funny how things have worked out on ChiefsPlanet, that the position that we need to spend a high draft pick on a QB (which is true) has been so consistently embarrassed by the board groupthink latching on to QBs who fail. You can set your watch to it.

Who really cares, I guess, but it's funny how this crowd can't pick a winner to save our lives.
Funny that you added Geno Smith. See my previous post.
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Only 1 of the QBs I wanted made that list, but he doesn't deserve to be there, yet... Tannehill.

Wasn't around for all the Sanchez and Clausen shit but I wanted Dalton (in the 5th, though - I think he sucks currently but hes no Sanchez or Clausen), Tannehill, Cousins, and Manuel.

So **** you all!
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Only 1 of the QBs I wanted made that list, but he doesn't deserve to be there, yet... Tannehill.

Wasn't around for all the Sanchez and Clausen shit but I wanted Dalton (in the 5th, though - I think he sucks currently but hes no Sanchez or Clausen), Tannehill, Cousins, and Manuel.

So **** you all!
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