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Old 05-09-2014, 06:34 PM   #1
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His presser is great... calm, cool and collected, I sense a maturity there.

And a classically trained pianist? I love that shit, it says something strong about him being a smart, well rounded young man... not just another party hard college yahoo.
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Old 05-09-2014, 06:37 PM   #2
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His presser is great... calm, cool and collected, I sense a maturity there.

And a classically trained pianist? I love that shit, it says something strong about him being a smart, well rounded young man... not just another party hard college yahoo.
He really is the total package as a prospect. The people that complained about the pick have no idea how lucky we were to get him at 23. I know his perceived value doesn't necessarily say that, bit that will be irrelevant.
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Old 05-09-2014, 06:41 PM   #3
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He really is the total package as a prospect. The people that complained about the pick have no idea how lucky we were to get him at 23. I know his perceived value doesn't necessarily say that, bit that will be irrelevant.
Total package? Not really. He's a pure pass rusher that struggles in coverage and against the run.

Absolutely a good pick, but not at all a "total package".
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Old 05-09-2014, 06:52 PM   #4
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Total package? Not really. He's a pure pass rusher that struggles in coverage and against the run.

Absolutely a good pick, but not at all a "total package".
He's a speed rush LB. I'm not overly concerned about his coverage abilities, and he's better against the run than he is given credit for. He's no longer going to be playing DE on the strong side. With his speed, strength, and work ethic along with learning from Gibbs, Hali and Houston it's a given he will continue to improve in those areas.
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Old 05-09-2014, 08:25 PM   #5
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Total package? Not really. He's a pure pass rusher that struggles in coverage and against the run.

Absolutely a good pick, but not at all a "total package".
How many guys in the NFL do all 3 of those things well?
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Old 05-09-2014, 09:37 PM   #6
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His presser is great... calm, cool and collected, I sense a maturity there.

And a classically trained pianist? I love that shit, it says something strong about him being a smart, well rounded young man... not just another party hard college yahoo.
I'm a classically trained pianist.

I'll be the judge of that. He's probably some douchebag who can play one Chopin etude so now he thinks he's hot shit.
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I'll be the judge of that. He's probably some douchebag who can play one Chopin etude so now he thinks he's hot shit.
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I'll be the judge of that. He's probably some douchebag who can play one Chopin etude so now he thinks he's hot shit.
SNR, I see you're at it again. Nice.

I was lukewarm on the pick, but after that presser, holy smokes, the kid seems extremely well composed. He gained points right there. I think the big question will be whether or not he can do much besides rush the passer. Hey, he's joining a very good LB corps; good place to learn. I'm warming to the pick. Hopefully, he'll be so stinking good that you'll claim you loved him from the get go!
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I'm a classically trained pianist.

I'll be the judge of that. He's probably some douchebag who can play one Chopin etude so now he thinks he's hot shit.
I bet you're just kidding, but if not, judge this...



Mouthbreathers who only know how to drink booze and grunt in the weight room don't give a flip about things like this.

My ex-wife was a piano teacher in her spare time, I've seen plenty of good ivory tickling...
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I bet you're just kidding, but if not, judge this...



Mouthbreathers who only know how to drink booze and grunt in the weight room don't give a flip about things like this.

My ex-wife was a piano teacher in her spare time, I've seen plenty of good ivory tickling...
Terrible.

If I were his piano teacher, I'd tell him to quit playing flat-wristed. He's got a ton of shoulder tension, too. The dude probably is terrible at his scales outside of the ones that fit the hand well like B and E major.

He's really got to get more of an elastic elbow. He has absolutely no power to his sound. He's playing from the base instead of allowing his weight to distribute sound into the right hand and the melody.

I could also dig at his improvisational choices, but that would take too much time.
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If I had to guess and kinda just simplify that critique... I would say that his flaws are a mix of being too strong and knowing it - therefore artificially altering his stroke, trying to be delicate/fancy and coming off stiff - and he probably hasn't regularly practiced in a looong time.

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GET OFF THE KIDS BACK CURMUDGEON HE'S A MUSICAL PRODIGY/QB SOUL CRUSHING DEMON.
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If I had to guess and kinda just simplify that critique... I would say that his flaws are a mix of being too strong and knowing it - therefore artificially altering his stroke, trying to be delicate/fancy and coming off stiff - and he probably hasn't regularly practiced in a looong time.

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GET OFF THE KIDS BACK CURMUDGEON HE'S A MUSICAL PRODIGY/QB SOUL CRUSHING DEMON.
He articulates very well, I will say that. If he used arm weight more to his advantage, he could have a much easier time using the bounceback of the piano keys to do the staccato for him. The fact that he plays so flat-wristed seems to me that he's doing all that work from fingers. Yes, you need active and energetic fingers to play good staccato, but he's gotta be doing more work than he needs to be doing. It's not efficient playing, which is preventing him from doing some REALLY cool things in his sound, like producing a solid forte with absolutely zero tension in his posture or his arms.

From listening, it appears he's a very intelligent individual who discovered voice leading completely on his own. It's a shame that he hasn't had more formal training, because this guy could have been REALLY good.
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He articulates very well, I will say that. If he used arm weight more to his advantage, he could have a much easier time using the bounceback of the piano keys to do the staccato for him. The fact that he plays so flat-wristed seems to me that he's doing all that work from fingers. Yes, you need active and energetic fingers to play good staccato, but he's gotta be doing more work than he needs to be doing. It's not efficient playing, which is preventing him from doing some REALLY cool things in his sound, like producing a solid forte with absolutely zero tension in his posture or his arms.

From listening, it appears he's a very intelligent individual who discovered voice leading completely on his own. It's a shame that he hasn't had more formal training, because this guy could have been REALLY good.
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