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Old 05-12-2014, 09:27 AM   #1
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What would you rather have again?

Someone like Carson Palmer in free agency + 2013's 2nd round pick (used possibly to draft Geno) + Cody Latimer?

Or Alex Smith?
Smith easily. Palmer does not survive behind this OL with the limited weapons that we have. Smith is also a significantly smarter and more clutch performer than Palmer is. He's also young enough that he can be the answer for the next 5-6 years or beyond if he decides to play that long. Geno Smith is crap.

There's no guarantee that Latimer ever pans out. There are more physically gifted players who enter the league and end up failing terribly than you can count.
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Old 05-12-2014, 09:28 AM   #2
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What would you rather have again?

Someone like Carson Palmer in free agency + 2013's 2nd round pick (used possibly to draft Geno) + Cody Latimer?

Or Alex Smith?
For two second rounders and a 5th, the Chiefs acquired Alex Smith, Tyler Bray, and Aaron Murray. For a team that was devoid of QB talent, I think Dorsey/Reid handled it alright (although truth be told, I'm not optimistic at all about Bray).
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Old 05-12-2014, 10:01 AM   #3
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What would you rather have again?

Someone like Carson Palmer in free agency + 2013's 2nd round pick (used possibly to draft Geno) + Cody Latimer?

Or Alex Smith?
I want no part of Carson Palmer, regardless of the alternatives.
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Old 05-12-2014, 11:26 AM   #4
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What would you rather have again?

Someone like Carson Palmer in free agency + 2013's 2nd round pick (used possibly to draft Geno) + Cody Latimer?

Or Alex Smith?
Smith. We would have had a losing record with Palmer last year.
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Old 05-12-2014, 11:59 AM   #5
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Smith. We would have had a losing record with Palmer last year.
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We would have missed out on a playoff loss and the tight cap space that's going to make things difficult to keep Smith, Berry, and Houston on the roster!

Also, I think we all know that Flowers is a cap casualty next year, but I don't see how Hali is not in the same boat. It's going to be a real shame that we have to release him from his contract likely before his aging decline begins to happen
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Old 05-12-2014, 12:09 PM   #6
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We would have missed out on a playoff loss and the tight cap space that's going to make things difficult to keep Smith, Berry, and Houston on the roster!

Also, I think we all know that Flowers is a cap casualty next year, but I don't see how Hali is not in the same boat. It's going to be a real shame that we have to release him from his contract likely before his aging decline begins to happen
If it came down to it, our FO would try to trade him for something instead of just releasing him. Gotta believe that, if he's still productive or undergoes a successful position switch to 5-tech, Dorsey would have no problem with signing Hali to a Suggs-like contract extension that can easily be cut without much of a hit after a year or two in the deal.
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Old 05-12-2014, 01:20 PM   #7
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We would have missed out on a playoff loss and the tight cap space that's going to make things difficult to keep Smith, Berry, and Houston on the roster!
I'll take those over anything Palmer would have given us.
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Old 05-12-2014, 12:46 PM   #8
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The Cardinals who had the 5th hardest schedule in football ended up with 10 wins, yet the Chiefs who had the easiest schedule in football had 11, yet Carson Palmer would have made it so the Chiefs wouldn't have had a winning record?

Not to mention Palmer was 4-1 in common opponents (ironically all the games were the same home/away wise) with 10 tds and 3 ints and 66% completion pct. Smith was 4-1, with 2 tds and 3 ints and 58% completion. Yet the Chiefs would have finished with a losing record?
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Old 05-12-2014, 12:48 PM   #9
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The Cardinals who had the 5th hardest schedule in football ended up with 10 wins, yet the Chiefs who had the easiest schedule in football had 11, yet Carson Palmer would have made it so the Chiefs wouldn't have had a winning record?

Not to mention Palmer was 4-1 in common opponents (ironically all the games were the same home/away wise) with 10 tds and 3 ints and 66% completion pct. Smith was 4-1, with 2 tds and 3 ints and 58% completion. Yet the Chiefs would have finished with a losing record?
I think the Cards 6th rank D had a lot to do with that. Chiefs D was 24.
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Old 05-12-2014, 12:55 PM   #10
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I think the Cards 6th rank D had a lot to do with that. Chiefs D was 24.
Chiefs defense was tied for 5th in total points, Arizona was 6th.
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The Cardinals who had the 5th hardest schedule in football ended up with 10 wins, yet the Chiefs who had the easiest schedule in football had 11, yet Carson Palmer would have made it so the Chiefs wouldn't have had a winning record?
Palmer turned the ball over 15! times more than Alex Smith.

You really don't think 15 more turnovers last year would have cost us 3+ games? Seriously?
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Palmer turned the ball over 15! times more than Alex Smith.

You really don't think 15 more turnovers last year would have cost us 3+ games? Seriously?
9 of Palmer's interceptions were against the 49ers and Seahawks.
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Kind of difficult to answer the question of what the right choice is or was right now. Time will tell. If we turn into the early '00s Eagles with Alex Smith behind center, are any of us really going to complain that they went with the names they liked instead of the names we liked? And on the flip side, if it fails miserably, we'll pretty much have our concerns confirmed.
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Kind of difficult to answer the question of what the right choice is or was right now. Time will tell. If we turn into the early '00s Eagles with Alex Smith behind center, are any of us really going to complain that they went with the names they liked instead of the names we liked? And on the flip side, if it fails miserably, we'll pretty much have our concerns confirmed.
Common sense has no place in draft discussion.
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