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Old 05-18-2014, 08:31 PM  
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Walter Rapes the Chiefs Draft
Don't agree with the Murray pick as I believe it was a complete piss away of a selection at a position that wasn't needing a pick in the first place. Murray will not even lead a team deep into the preseason, let alone the post season.

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NFL Draft Team Grade: C- Grade

Goals Entering the 2014 NFL Draft: The Chiefs are missing a second-round pick, so they want to move down more than anything. Their aim is to do so and then grab a guard like Xavier Su'a-Filo or Joel Bitonio. After that, they have to use some selections on the receiving corps and secondary. Getting some help in the front seven and on the defensive line is another goal.

2014 NFL Draft Accomplishments: I get the feeling that the Chiefs spent more time trying to trade their pick rather than deciding whom they were going take. They let the clock run down because they were desperate to move out of the No. 23 spot, but they couldn't do anything and panicked, taking Dee Ford off the board. That was a dreadful selection; not only was Ford deemed a reach by teams we've spoken to, but he didn't even fill a need. There are members of Kansas City's organization who don't even like the pick. It was that bad.

The Chiefs redeemed themselves a bit with Phillip Gaines in the third round. Gaines is a tall, athletic, talented cornerback, who could start once Brandon Flowers is dealt. Taking Aaron Murray in the fifth frame was also a solid move, but once again, Kansas City had to redeem itself because of a reach - which was De'Anthony Thomas in the previous round.

Kansas City unquestionably came away with one of the worst classes this year. It made multiple reaches and failed to address most of its glaring needs. That's not how teams are supposed to draft.

NFL Draft Individual Grades:

23. Dee Ford, DE/OLB, Auburn: D Grade
Ugh. The Chiefs have not been drafting well in this new regime. Their class last year was Eric Fisher (who struggled), Travis Kelce, Knile Davis and Nico Johnson. They dealt this year's second for mediocre Alex Smith. And now they're taking a second-round prospect who fills a minimal need. Things are not looking very bright in Kansas City.

There's no doubt that Ford is a reach. The Chiefs could have moved down and still picked him. Ford also won't start anytime soon with Tamba Hali and Justin Houston in front of him. This is the worst pick of the first round thus far, but at least it's not on a Millen level.

87. Phillip Gaines, CB, Rice: A- Grade
There's talk that the Chiefs could trade Brandon Flowers, so it makes sense that they spent a mid-round selection on a cornerback. Phillip Gaines didn't get any national attention because he played at Rice, but he was terrific, albeit against inferior competition. He's also very athletic, so it wouldn't surprise me if he emerged as a solid starter down the road.

124. De'Anthony Thomas, RB, Oregon: C+ Grade
Wow. This is a couple of rounds earlier than De'Anthony Thomas was expected to go, but the Oregon play-maker should be a good weapon for Alex Smith. Kansas City's quarterback can't throw deep, so he'll need another target to dump the ball off to. Thomas also serves as a needed backup for Jamaal Charles, a need created by Knile Davis' injury.

163. Aaron Murray, QB, Georgia: A Grade
Nice. Alex Smith cannot lead the Chiefs deep into the playoffs, but perhaps Aaron Murray will be able to. Murray would have gone much earlier had he not torn his ACL, so Kansas City is getting a steal and perhaps its future starting quarterback. This is an awesome pick in the fifth round.

193. Zach Fulton, G, Tennessee: B Grade
It's a shock that the Chiefs waited this long for a guard, as I was told that the position was under consideration in the first round. Zach Fulton fits the range though, so no complaints.

200. Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, OT/G, McGill: A- Grade
There was some buzz about Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, and some even thought he could go as high as the fourth round. The Canadian could eventually compete for the right tackle job.
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Old 05-19-2014, 08:13 AM   #16
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equals 'raping the draft'?

how did you manage to become reeruned as an adult?

anyone giving a D to using the #23 pick on a pass rusher, while advocating for a guard, is dumber than a squirrel eating shit
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Old 05-19-2014, 08:14 AM   #17
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we basically had the best picks in rounds 3-6 per walter...

headline "Chiefs slay late round picks"

1 pick in the top 80....1...and we rang up A's
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Old 05-19-2014, 09:03 AM   #18
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Walter has always hated the Chiefs. Sac is just using this article to help his agenda.
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Old 05-19-2014, 09:07 AM   #19
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Knile Davis had a simple fracture to his fibula which didn't require surgery. It's an 8 week recovery before full workout activity. Walter the Clueless strikes again.
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Article in MMQB this morning that the Falcons were trying to move up into the 20s to grab Dee Ford. So much for the theory that KC could have moved down and gotten him.
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Old 05-19-2014, 11:11 AM   #21
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Aaron Murray was a fantastic pick. Even if he doesn't start, he's a great insurance policy. I believe he can come in if Alex gets hurt and do well.

Chase Daniel is set to make a combined $7 million dollars in 2014 and 2015. Time to shave off that money and help our cap situation.
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Most people view a successful draft as a team gaining immediate starters. This draft doesn't net you that. I'm happy with the draft....but from an immediate impact this season standpoint....he has a little bit of a point.

BUT....he hates the Chiefs and he's only happy if we pick offensive linemen.....unless it's the one he didn't like.
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Dee Ford gets a D but the Eagles take Marcus Smith and he only gets a C. Because according to his words..."they traded down and got a 3rd because they knew they were overdrafting him".
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This is one of those articles that we'll look back on one day and laugh our asses off at what they said about Ford.
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Most people view a successful draft as a team gaining immediate starters. This draft doesn't net you that. I'm happy with the draft....but from an immediate impact this season standpoint....he has a little bit of a point.

BUT....he hates the Chiefs and he's only happy if we pick offensive linemen.....unless it's the one he didn't like.
we only had 1 pick in the top 80...it's not a useful criteria for our draft
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we only had 1 pick in the top 80...it's not a useful criteria for our draft
I agree. But that's not going to stop everyone else from bashing it.
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Most people view a successful draft as a team gaining immediate starters. This draft doesn't net you that. I'm happy with the draft....but from an immediate impact this season standpoint....he has a little bit of a point.

BUT....he hates the Chiefs and he's only happy if we pick offensive linemen.....unless it's the one he didn't like.
I disagree with that. If that's the case, then the 49ers and the Seahawks can never have successful drafts.

Even if they do net successful starters from a draft, these are week-after draft grades we're talking about. At this point, not even the coaches know to what degree they've drafted some immediate successes in the NFL
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This is one of those articles that we'll look back on one day and laugh our asses off at what they said about Ford.
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