The Fermi Paradox - Why we haven't been contacted by aliens

[Chief_For_Life58]

Interesting read. What's your opinion?


http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/05/fermi-paradox.html

[-King-]

Originally Posted by scott free

Squaring my beliefs is so easy you'd flip your lid... your son the Ranger, I BET that guy isn't just swallowing any old order, he's digging into things, he's been around... its easier to believe what you see right in front of you.

I'd bet anything your son the Ranger has seen enough to make him question everything, maybe not who knows...

[RNR]

Originally Posted by -King-

[Easy 6]

I don't blame you guys for those posts at all, whatever I was thinking that night wasn't working, I had a few posts here and elsewhere that night that would give Smed a serious run for his money.

I stand by the earlier stuff in this thread, but somewhere along the way my brain shut down, yet I was still awake and typing...

My bad, I gotta watch that.

[okoye35chiefs]

Originally Posted by seamonster

When I had to take a world religon class I multiplied the two independent probabilities for earth planets(number of known earth-ish exoplanets currently seen divded by total planets) and the probablility that a living life form has abstract cognitive abilities (humans are the only known living thing with this talent) and the probablility came out to .00000000000000000000002 chance that you could be a living organism on an earth like planet with the ability to do abstract thinking. All things considering Einsteins theory of spacial relativity and breaking the speed of light I'd say it's highly unlikely that there's aliens perusing around our solarsystem. Not saying it's impossible, but when I'm doing the math here it just seems a little ridiculous.

i like it... agree to your work above..

[bevischief]

Originally Posted by Dave Lane

Best case is there's one super advanced civilization we bump into. They're very friendly willing to share their technology with us and make all of us immortal and not have to suffer from the normal diseases and death our species is used to.

Or eat us.

[cdcox]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

Given the fact that Genesis has only happened once in the existence of our current tree of life in accordance with Darwinism, it's also a possibility that the % of planets it has happened on may not be as high as some believe...if at all.

I think once the first tree of life gets planted it would be nearly impossible for a new tree to gain a foothold. Current organisms are very well adapted to compete for resources in their current niches, and any nascent life forms would just be viewed as food by existing microorganisms. So I wouldn't read too much into that.

[cdcox]

Originally Posted by seamonster

When I had to take a world religon class I multiplied the two independent probabilities for earth planets(number of known earth-ish exoplanets currently seen divded by total planets) and the probablility that a living life form has abstract cognitive abilities (humans are the only known living thing with this talent) and the probablility came out to .00000000000000000000002 chance that you could be a living organism on an earth like planet with the ability to do abstract thinking. All things considering Einsteins theory of spacial relativity and breaking the speed of light I'd say it's highly unlikely that there's aliens perusing around our solarsystem. Not saying it's impossible, but when I'm doing the math here it just seems a little ridiculous.

I won't subscribe to your newsletter until you learn scientific notation.

[BigRedChief]

I think teleportation is highly likely for goods in 50 years and humans within 100 years. Thats a doable tech. No warp drive needed.

[Hydrae]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I think teleportation is highly likely for goods in 50 years and humans within 100 years. Thats a doable tech. No warp drive needed.

What makes you think that a beam of particles can travel any faster than the speed of light? The same limitation still applies.

[Easy 6]

I'm not going back to look, but did anyone, anyone at all, give any serious thought to Lt. Col. Charles Halt and his men who witnessed and even touched et aircraft?

Or was it swept under the rug of pessimism like everything else?

Curious, but not worried, trying to get the message out is a thankless deal, most people are just too smart for their own good.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by cdcox

I won't subscribe to your newsletter until you learn scientific notation.

I swear I've told him the same thing 1x10^6 times.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by scott free

I'm not going back to look, but did anyone, anyone at all, give any serious thought to Lt. Col. Charles Halt and his men who witnessed and even touched et aircraft?

Or was it swept under the rug of pessimism like everything else?

Curious, but not worried, trying to get the message out is a thankless deal, most people are just too smart for their own good.

I find these things interesting, but don't necessarily view them as absolute evidence. I think our own government probably has secret stuff that they test all the time. A rank and file military guy or civilian could easily view them as something not of this world. These sightings may be alien and I'm open to that, but they may also be terrestrial and that's probably the more likely bet. I'm not sure there's any way to tell.

It's kind of funny now that I think about it. Faith in UFOs is similar to faith in religion. You either think it's true or you don't, but there's really no way to prove it unless the being in question shows up and announces their arrival.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I find these things interesting, but don't necessarily view them as absolute evidence. I think our own government probably has secret stuff that they test all the time. A rank and file military guy or civilian could easily view them as something not of this world. These sightings may be alien and I'm open to that, but they may also be terrestrial and that's probably the more likely bet. I'm not sure there's any way to tell.

It's kind of funny now that I think about it. Faith in UFOs is similar to faith in religion. You either think it's true or you don't, but there's really no way to prove it unless the being in question shows up and announces their arrival.

I can respect that, but as far as the rank and file... what about a veeery highly vetted lightbird who's very familiar with literally everything, ours and theirs, in the air during his time?

When he and his trained crew see the same things over and over during the course of two nights doesn't it atleast raise serious questions in your mind?

Anyhoo, I digress, it often takes a direct experience to pull the wool off... keep your mind open is all I'm asking, you're more than smart enough to do that.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by scott free

I can respect that, but as far as the rank and file... what about a veeery highly vetted lightbird who's very familiar with literally everything, ours and theirs, in the air during his time?

When he and his trained crew see the same things over and over during the course of two nights doesn't it atleast raise serious questions in your mind?

Anyhoo, I digress, it often takes a direct experience to pull the wool off... keep your mind open is all I'm asking, you're more than smart enough to do that.

There's not going to be anybody out in the field who's aware of everything.

In fact, there's probably not anybody anywhere who's aware of everything. I'm not sure the White House occupants are aware of everything.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by scott free

I can respect that, but as far as the rank and file... what about a veeery highly vetted lightbird who's very familiar with literally everything, ours and theirs, in the air during his time?

When he and his trained crew see the same things over and over during the course of two nights doesn't it atleast raise serious questions in your mind?

Anyhoo, I digress, it often takes a direct experience to pull the wool off... keep your mind open is all I'm asking, you're more than smart enough to do that.

No offense dude, but what you've just typed is a logical fallacy called argument from authority. There's nothing wrong with having an open mind. But that's different than allowing a logical fallacy to overcome standard skepticism. The stories are interesting as hell. Lots of fun. But without actual evidence of any kind, it's just a story regardless of the credentials of the storyteller. It does take direct evidence. I'd gladly welcome that experience much more than you could imagine.