Chiefs First Units Impressions - Page 5

OldSchool · 08-17-2014, 08:23 PM

Things that I noticed off the bat:

Offense:

Alex Smith - Looked good except for a couple of misfires. He was hit way too much in this game.

Eric Fisher - Looks alright but he had a couple of glaringly bad moments, both against Hardy. Completely whiffed on a pass play and run play. He played better than I expected but not as well as you would hope.

Run plays - We were successful almost exclusively on runs to the left of our formation but anything going to the right was almost always stuffed right away.

Interior OL - It's about as bad as I thought it would be. Star had his way with Jeff Allen way too often. Fulton is a terrible blocker in the screen game.

TE Fasano - I think he is best described as slow but steady. I hope Kelce replaces him in the starting role sooner rather than later.

Bowe - Looks like he did in the later part of the season and into the playoffs. He'll be fine as long as he stays healthy.

DAT - Fast as hell with great vision and showed fantastic awareness and burst on his carry.

Knile Davis - For some reason, he looks slower to me this year. I thought he was Gray on a couple of plays. He had one bad play in pass pro but was ok otherwise.

Play calling - Way too predictable but that's the pre-season for you. Expect them to open it up a little more in week 3 for the dress-up and then shut it down for week 4 before the regular season.

Defense:

Houston - He looks sluggish out there and really ineffective. This is the guy that everyone wants to extend for $60+ mil a year? Could just be him being out of shape from his holdout but we'll see if he can turn it on for the season.

Hali - Same as always. Steady and high motor player who shows no quit. Looks much better than Houston.

DBs - Can we please switch to Seattle's cover scheme? We lack the dominant, or at least technically sound corners, that can run the man coverage scheme effectively. Cooper is our best CB and he's still a bit too raw to be trusted on an island. Smith just doesn't really have the foot speed to be effective in man coverage, especially with the new rules today.

Joe Mays - He's an upgrade over Jordan so far, at least as a blitzer and in the run game.

DL - Poe looks solid and was held on an awful lot of plays. We still gave up the short TD runs far too easily though.

What did you guys notice out of the first unit out there?

beach tribe · 08-18-2014, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Oh, I posted about it in the chat earlier but I feel like Knile pokes around too often in traffic. I'd like to see him choose a lane and hit it hard and fast.

Of course, sometimes he's showing good patience, but more often than not I'd rather see him just lower his head and build up some steam.

Don't let his size fool you.
He is NOT a power back.

Shit, Jamaal is more of a power back than he is.

But he is a home run threat.
We have 3 of them on the team right now.

**The Franchise** · 08-18-2014, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

Please trade for alex Boone.

And pay him with what? Dude wants to be paid like the top OG he is and we don't have the money for him right now.

Three7s · 08-18-2014, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by John Dope

First unit offense was pretty good.

We were missing our best player and going against the best front seven in the league.

Fisher made a couple of mistakes but was good 90% of the time. He's almost good enough and will be soon imo. Allen and Stephenson were not good.

Even if that were true, 90% isn't good enough. All it takes is 10% to totally change a game and cost you a win.

Bowe stepped up but he's done that after the media got all over his ass before. I'm not going to get excited about last night's performance.

If we are going to run a bunch of screens the receivers need to block much much better. All of them sucked in this area (even Bowe).

Alex looked good to me.

Good, but he still doesn't take the chances that I wish he would, especially in a no-risk situation, but he was alright.

Succop won the job last night. Santos sucks on kick offs.

Fasano is as solid as ever. He will continue to start over Kelce because he can block.

I heard that Kelce was a decent blocker, what did you see out of Kelce there?

Davis did a nice job imo. He held the ball well against a damn good defense.

First unit defense looked great.

Carolina's first three drives were three and outs.

Parker lost the job last night because that's twice he hasn't been able to get his head around and it's cost us both times.

And who takes over for him? Sean Smith wasn't exactly dominating either.

Mays looks really good. He's the best player we've had next to DJ since switching to the 3-4.

Sorenson needs to wrap up and quit going for big hits.

We never need to have Abdullah lined up over the opposing #1 WR. Even if Hali is going to bump him. That's an disaster waiting to happen.

Bob Sutton needs to realize that he can't hide any mis-matches. It cost the defense several times last season.

Bailey has gotten better for sure.

Owens looks good in the nickel. He might be an upgrade over Flowers.

Check the bold!

beach tribe · 08-18-2014, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

And pay him with what? Dude wants to be paid like the top OG he is and we don't have the money for him right now.

Haven't you heard, the salary cap isn't real.

**Easy 6** · 08-18-2014, 10:33 AM

Bowe hopefully shut some people up, he looked solid.

Kelce is going to be a great weapon.

O line sucks dong.

lcarus · 08-18-2014, 10:45 AM

I'm excited that Kelce is doing well. We desperately need a good TE.

Mr. Laz · 08-18-2014, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Our OL would be fine if Jeff Allen didn't suck so much AIDSshit.

He's our worst starter by far.

Yep

Jeff Allen is our most consistent Olineman, consistently bad

the rest are wildly up and down

seems like they take turns screwing up

Mr. Laz · 08-18-2014, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

Bowe hopefully shut some people up, he looked solid.

Kelce is going to be a great weapon.

O line sucks dong.

Solid?!?

He supposed to be elite.

**RealSNR** · 08-18-2014, 11:54 AM

That's OldSchool for ya, ladies and gentlemen.

Doesn't want to pay out the ass for Justin Houston.

Wants to pay out the ass for Alex Boone.

Alexes Smith and Boone are all you need to build a championship team.

OldSchool · 08-18-2014, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

That's OldSchool for ya, ladies and gentlemen.

Doesn't want to pay out the ass for Justin Houston.

Wants to pay out the ass for Alex Boone.

Alexes Smith and Boone are all you need to build a championship team.

So you think Houston actually looked good out there and the interior of our OL isn't a major issue?

**Easy 6** · 08-18-2014, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Solid?!?

He supposed to be elite.

You're splitting hairs.

He looked quicker than usual and was catching every throw, no sign of finger problems... I was pleased with his showing.

Mr. Laz · 08-18-2014, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

You're splitting hairs.

He looked quicker than usual and was catching every throw, no sign of finger problems... I was pleased with his showing.

Not really

He's not just supposed to be another guy.

He's supposed be a #1 elite receiver, who forces the defense to account for him on every play. Not only do defenses not have to do that but he doesn't even dominate on just regular 1-on-1 coverage.

I guess we have different opinions on what an elite,top 10 wr is supposed to do.

jd1020 · 08-18-2014, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Not really

He's not just supposed to be another guy.

He's supposed be a #1 elite receiver, who forces the defense to account for him on every play. Not only do defenses not have to do that but he doesn't even dominate on just regular 1-on-1 coverage.

I guess we have different opinions on what an elite,top 10 wr is supposed to do.

You don't think defenses game plan for Bowe?

JFC.

Anytime someone mentions the Chiefs offense 3 names always come out. Charles, Bowe, and Smith.

ThaVirus · 08-18-2014, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

So you think Houston actually looked good out there and the interior of our OL isn't a major issue?

All of our guys have been hot dogging it, IMO. That's why we haven't been hearing a damn thing about Houston, DJ, Poe, or even Hali.

You do realize that Houston is playing for a contract, right? You really expect him to go out there and risk injury in an exhibition game?

Chief Roundup · 08-18-2014, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

You don't think defenses game plan for Bowe?

JFC.

Anytime someone mentions the Chiefs offense 3 names always come out. Charles, Bowe, and Smith.

Very little. He is not Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, etc.

08-17-2014, 08:23 PM
OldSchool MVP Join Date: Sep 2013 Casino cash: $10035212	First Units Impressions Things that I noticed off the bat: Offense: Alex Smith - Looked good except for a couple of misfires. He was hit way too much in this game. Eric Fisher - Looks alright but he had a couple of glaringly bad moments, both against Hardy. Completely whiffed on a pass play and run play. He played better than I expected but not as well as you would hope. Run plays - We were successful almost exclusively on runs to the left of our formation but anything going to the right was almost always stuffed right away. Interior OL - It's about as bad as I thought it would be. Star had his way with Jeff Allen way too often. Fulton is a terrible blocker in the screen game. TE Fasano - I think he is best described as slow but steady. I hope Kelce replaces him in the starting role sooner rather than later. Bowe - Looks like he did in the later part of the season and into the playoffs. He'll be fine as long as he stays healthy. DAT - Fast as hell with great vision and showed fantastic awareness and burst on his carry. Knile Davis - For some reason, he looks slower to me this year. I thought he was Gray on a couple of plays. He had one bad play in pass pro but was ok otherwise. Play calling - Way too predictable but that's the pre-season for you. Expect them to open it up a little more in week 3 for the dress-up and then shut it down for week 4 before the regular season. Defense: Houston - He looks sluggish out there and really ineffective. This is the guy that everyone wants to extend for $60+ mil a year? Could just be him being out of shape from his holdout but we'll see if he can turn it on for the season. Hali - Same as always. Steady and high motor player who shows no quit. Looks much better than Houston. DBs - Can we please switch to Seattle's cover scheme? We lack the dominant, or at least technically sound corners, that can run the man coverage scheme effectively. Cooper is our best CB and he's still a bit too raw to be trusted on an island. Smith just doesn't really have the foot speed to be effective in man coverage, especially with the new rules today. Joe Mays - He's an upgrade over Jordan so far, at least as a blitzer and in the run game. DL - Poe looks solid and was held on an awful lot of plays. We still gave up the short TD runs far too easily though. What did you guys notice out of the first unit out there?
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