*** official geno vs the big bad bear thread ***

[SAUTO]

Does he get eaten by something other than clay





You lazy pussies happy now?
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[Dayze]

So you're telling me there's a chance........

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

This place is just ****ing moronic anymore.

Alex Smith has three guys collapse in on his right side and people bitch him out for not finding an open man in the game thread.

Geno Smith plays an uneven game but does put up over 300 yards and people talk about him like he was Ryan Leaf in Arrowhead.

It's just rank stupidity.

I'm not sure who you're referring to but I like to call them like I see them...

So far this year...Alex Smith has been incredibly boring and a big ball of 'meh.' He's good at leading a running team...but he literally makes no plays with his arm, and is merely good at getting the ball to his backs or tight ends...might as well not even give the guy a receiver.

Geno has flashed, but he's just so inconsistent, and he makes such incredibly dumb plays, that I just don't ever see him becoming a franchise QB...and after all, that is the point, right?

It's kind of like Alex Smith, and Andy Dalton, and Geno Smith, and etc...

All of them win games at times, and look good at times...but they all have those flaws that make you think, "nope, not gonna happen."

and for the last 8 years on this board EVERYONE has wanted to find that Andrew Luck in the draft...and yet we're still debating about Geno Smith?

I mean, come on. Geno, Alex...both have enough flaws that you're never going to win anything meaningful unless you either get copious amounts of Flacco luck or build a totally ELITE team around them (top 3 defense, great OL, great offensive weapons)...

In the last several drafts these are the only QB's that mean anything:

Russell Wilson
Andrew Luck
Colin Kaepernick
Cam Newton

The other guys like Geno? Who gives a shit?

[cdcox]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I think Geno does a lot of good things...

but he's certainly not a guy that makes me think, "oooh, wish we had him!"

His ceiling is probably Alex Smith.

Geno is a single read QB. He won't progress beyond where he's at until he learns to read defenses. There has never been a top 5 single read QB in the history of the game.

Alex is better at reading, but is too slow. Think of someone who moves his lips as he reads. His legs make up for it to a degree, some of that is offset by average pocket presence -- not having a good intuition about when to run and when to stay put. He's good enough to win with if surrounding talent is very high. I don't think he gets intrinsically better at this stage of his career -- he might have a few games like the Colts game, but clearly that was an outlier performance.

[Dylan]

I guarantee the 49ers wish they had Alex Smith.

Watching the 49ers, Kaepernick cannot change the ball trajectory at all.

Just my opinion.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

This place is just ****ing moronic anymore.

You have the Alex Smith Fanbois + Clay + People obsessed with Clay all together. That is pure stupidity at its finest.

[L.A. Chieffan]

Everything is black or white. You're either the best ever or dog shit, no in between. You are at fault as much as anybody

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by cdcox

Geno is a single read QB. He won't progress beyond where he's at until he learns to read defenses. There has never been a top 5 single read QB in the history of the game.

Alex is better at reading, but is too slow. Think of someone who moves his lips as he reads. His legs make up for it to a degree, some of that is offset by average pocket presence -- not having a good intuition about when to run and when to stay put. He's good enough to win with if surrounding talent is very high. I don't think he gets intrinsically better at this stage of his career -- he might have a few games like the Colts game, but clearly that was an outlier performance.

Alex really bothers me in the pocket...and his penchant to tuck and run is really bothersome

someone should show him Russell Wilson footage and be like, "see Alex, do this"

[SoCalBronco]

Cutler > Geno.

Take that, Clayton. Your boy will NEVER approach Jays greatness.

Ever

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Dylan

I guarantee the 49ers wish they had Alex Smith.

Watching the 49ers, Kaepernick cannot change the ball trajectory at all.

Just my opinion.

Well, no offense...but you're wrong.

Alex Smith has already reached his ceiling.

Colin Kaepernick has an incredibly high ceiling, and he's still already more valuable to his team than Alex Smith is to his team...despite the somewhat rocky start.

The 49ers are going to be fine. Arizona and Chicago are really good teams.

They are going to win 10 games, maybe 11.

...and Colin has had two straight really good postseasons...

so I have a hard time trying to figure out why people on this site think Alex Smith is even in the same stratosphere as Colin Kaepernick as a QB...but hey, whatever

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I think Geno does a lot of good things...

but he's certainly not a guy that makes me think, "oooh, wish we had him!"

His ceiling is probably Alex Smith.

It took Alex Smith how many seasons to become the Alex Smith chiefs fans know and love? (lol)

For Geno Smith's sake, I hope he can become Alex Smith level a lot quicker, because NY will toss him out half way into this season.

[Dylan]

You could be right about Kaepernick's skillset, Hootie. Although, I am not a Kaepernick fan at all. I would never want him to lead our team.



What is Ray wearing? LOL

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by cdcox

Geno is a single read QB. He won't progress beyond where he's at until he learns to read defenses. There has never been a top 5 single read QB in the history of the game.

yep

[Hootie]

I just don't get how a guy who goes into Seattle last year and is a Sherman "all-time great" play away from leading his team to back to back Super Bowls isn't more valuable to his team than Alex Smith.

I mean, we're talking about a guy who outplayed Aaron Rodgers in two straight playoff wins...

and Aaron Rodgers is God on this board.

Hate to say it...but if Kaepernick was white and didn't have any tattoos...I'd love to see what the perception of him on this board would be...I have a feeling it would be much different.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

so I have a hard time trying to figure out why people on this site think Alex Smith is even in the same stratosphere as Colin Kaepernick as a QB...but hey, whatever

You just lit the beacon


The Alex Smith taintlickers will be along soon.

[ViperVisor]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

...and Colin has had two straight really good postseasons...

His last postseason was crap. He finished the reg season on an upswing but regressed back to his sloppy mechanics, not reading coverage, chuckatude in the playoffs.