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Old 09-24-2014, 10:49 PM   #1
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JFC, why does every single QB evaluation have to bring it back to Alex Smith?

I don't think Hootie talking about Rodgers has ANYTHING to do with Alex Smith. Saying Aaron Rodgers is overrated doesn't somehow put Alex Smith on even close to the same level. Even if Aaron Rodgers is overrated, think everyone would agree he's still in the elite tier whereas Alex Smith is in a lower tier (I'd put him as third tier, and his fans would put him in the second tier). In either case, Rodgers is still in a higher tier than Smith.

No matter how accurate he is and how strong his arm is, his record of closing games is still unbelievably stunningly low in comparison to other elite QBs.
Translation: Aaron Rodgers is great for Fantasy Football, not the best when you actually need to win a game.

To be honest, ever since he got paid, games where he looks erratic as a passer have increased in number. I haven't seen him consistently make the same throws to Jordy Nelson that he used to be money on before he turned 30 (going to be 31 this year).

In back to back playoff appearances, Rodgers has missed multiple throws that he would typically make during the regular season. He used to be able to routinely drop the ball into the hands of his receiver on back-shoulder passes, even with a DB playing pretty tight coverage. I haven't seen him making those throws anywhere near as consistently as he did just a couple of years ago.
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Old 09-25-2014, 07:40 AM   #2
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Translation: Aaron Rodgers is great for Fantasy Football, not the best when you actually need to win a game.

To be honest, ever since he got paid, games where he looks erratic as a passer have increased in number. I haven't seen him consistently make the same throws to Jordy Nelson that he used to be money on before he turned 30 (going to be 31 this year).

In back to back playoff appearances, Rodgers has missed multiple throws that he would typically make during the regular season. He used to be able to routinely drop the ball into the hands of his receiver on back-shoulder passes, even with a DB playing pretty tight coverage. I haven't seen him making those throws anywhere near as consistently as he did just a couple of years ago.
Agree he's not as effective but still really damn good and still in that elite bucket.

But if we are talking about the best... I'm tough on Peyton because he hasn't been a great playoff closer, but Rodgers has been bad at closing both in the regular season and the playoffs. If I'm comparing the best to the best, that's where I see Rodgers as being overrated. He's among the best but until he can consistently play well in close games, he shouldn't be considered the best which many think he is.
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Old 09-25-2014, 07:44 AM   #3
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Is Barry Sanders NOT a top 3 RB of all time because he never got a ring?

Peyton Manning changed the game. No matter how much people hate him due to rivalry, over-endorsement, playoff record, or whatever the case... he is still one of the top 3 QB's of ALL TIME.
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Old 09-28-2014, 01:31 PM   #4
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Peyton Manning changed the game. No matter how much people hate him due to rivalry, over-endorsement, playoff record, or whatever the case... he is still one of the top 3 QB's of ALL TIME.
No, he's not.

While you can argue guys like Barry Sanders or Terrel Davis or Kurt Warner deserve consideration they all upped their game.

Manning's numbers in the post season are ALL down. He plays worse when the games matter most.

His TD's, Int's, yardage, completion percentage, all are below his regular season averages. He sucks, hard, in big games...
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Old 09-28-2014, 01:37 PM   #5
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Peyton Manning changed the game. No matter how much people hate him due to rivalry, over-endorsement, playoff record, or whatever the case... he is still one of the top 3 QB's of ALL TIME.

Manning's borderline top 10. There's no way in hell he's in the top 3.
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Manning's borderline top 10. There's no way in hell he's in the top 3.
Montana, Elway, then the rest. So hard to say who's top ten. Manning is as cerebral as any though...
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Montana, Elway, then the rest. So hard to say who's top ten. Manning is as cerebral as any though...
Until the playoffs.

His own brother is a better playoff QB and he's no HOF player...
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Until the playoffs.

His own brother is a better playoff QB and he's no HOF player...
Valid critique. Would be more damning if he didn't have a ring.
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