Royals Is Eric Hosmer finally becoming a star? - Page 3

TLO · 10-04-2014, 08:19 AM

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**BigMeatballDave** · 10-04-2014, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

I know i'm pissing on the parade but Hosmer looked jacked last night.

Like on amphetamines type jacked

hope he doesn't get busted for PEDs

You think maybe it's because his team is in the post season?

WTF?

I bet it was you that said he was ruining this team.

Jack ass.

ROYC75 · 10-04-2014, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Smoke

Is Eric Hosmer finally becoming a star?

Uh, Yup!

Takes time, GMDM & HCNY has said that it takes so many at bats for most young players to find their groove and play well on a consistent basis.

It's time for Hos & Moose to be those players. We just may be getting to that time now where they have been through the ups & downs in the early stages of their careers.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-04-2014, 10:49 AM

It's certainly inspiring to think so, but you have to remember that the postseason is a very small sample size. It's really not that much different from him having a hot week during the regular season. The execution is the same, but the stakes mean more.

There have been a lot of mediocre baseball players who have gotten hot at the right time: Marco Scutaro, Craig Counsell, David Eckstein. I'm not saying that Hosmer is mediocre, but this binge isn't necessarily indicative of better things to come.

58-4ever · 10-04-2014, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Three7s

He's having a fantastic post-season, but star? Absolutely not. He was dog-shit for most of this season and still hasn't put up remarkable numbers during any regular season.

You're an idiot. Isn't this the same guy that had the most hits in MLB the second half of last season? He's a second half player, and he was hurt during the second half this year. I'm betting next year that he hits .315 20HR and 90RBI.

Hootie · 10-04-2014, 10:54 AM

I remember arguing with Royals (and non Royals) fans about Hosmer and his place in the lineup after injury...

Fruit Ninja, a bandwagon Dodgers fan, literally called me dumb for saying Hosmer was our starting first baseman regardless of how well Butler hit while playing first base

That guy is embarrassing, really

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-04-2014, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Maybe? There just isnt any explanation for why Hosmer and Moose are performing at this level? It's inexplicable given their regular season performances this year.

But I hope they keep it up!

Yes, there is. It's called a small sample size. Look at his game logs from about Game 64-68 this year.

This is what baseball is. A .250 hitter doesn't get a hit every fourth at-bat like clockwork--they'll have weeks where they hit .500 and weeks where they hit nothing.

Ride the hot streak, but don't make the foolish assumption that it's something meaningful in the long term. That's how you end up with Chase Headley.

Three7s · 10-04-2014, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever

You're an idiot. Isn't this the same guy that had the most hits in MLB the second half of last season? He's a second half player, and he was hurt during the second half this year. I'm betting next year that he hits .315 20HR and 90RBI.

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It's certainly inspiring to think so, but you have to remember that the postseason is a very small sample size. It's really not that much different from him having a hot week during the regular season. The execution is the same, but the stakes mean more.

There have been a lot of mediocre baseball players who have gotten hot at the right time: Marco Scutaro, Craig Counsell, David Eckstein. I'm not saying that Hosmer is mediocre, but this binge isn't necessarily indicative of better things to come.

Hamas, pretty much, summed up my thoughts perfectly on this. Please ignore them in whatever way you wish.

Also, a good second-half player=\=star

Hootie · 10-04-2014, 11:39 AM

It's only a positive thing that Hosmer and Moose have shined on the biggest stage. Confidence has as much to do with player development than anything

Three7s · 10-04-2014, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

It's only a positive thing that Hosmer and Moose have shined on the biggest stage. Confidence has as much to do with player development than anything

Agreed. I hope they continue to get better and, eventually, become perennial .300/30/100 type guys. With this topic being about Hosmer, you just can't say he's a star because of a few good playoff games yet. For now, let's just hope he stays a star through the duration of the playoffs.

**Saul Good** · 10-04-2014, 11:54 AM

He's got to get his swing in order in the offseason. He has been getting by on athleticism and incredible hand-eye coordination. His swing is incredibly off balance, and he literally has the longest stride I've ever seen at the plate.

duncan_idaho · 10-04-2014, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Three7s

Agreed. I hope they continue to get better and, eventually, become perennial .300/30/100 type guys. With this topic being about Hosmer, you just can't say he's a star because of a few good playoff games yet. For now, let's just hope he stays a star through the duration of the playoffs.

I don't think Mike Moustakas ever hits .300 in a full season. Hell, I'd be satisfied with .280.

I do think he can be a .270/30 HR guy, though. Which would probably lead to him getting a lot of walks as well.

I'd be perfectly satisfied if he could hit .250 with 25 bombs and play consistently very good defense. That's a very reliable player and plus player at 3B.

Hosmer CAN be a .300/30 guy. Just a matter of him finding an approach that works and sticking with it. It honestly wouldn't surprise me at all to see Hosmer beast throughout the playoffs, only to come out of ST struggling again next year after spending the offseason "working in the cage" with his brother.

Three7s · 10-04-2014, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I don't think Mike Moustakas ever hits .300 in a full season. Hell, I'd be satisfied with .280.

I do think he can be a .270/30 HR guy, though. Which would probably lead to him getting a lot of walks as well.

I'd be perfectly satisfied if he could hit .250 with 25 bombs and play consistently very good defense. That's a very reliable player and plus player at 3B.

Hosmer CAN be a .300/30 guy. Just a matter of him finding an approach that works and sticking with it. It honestly wouldn't surprise me at all to see Hosmer beast throughout the playoffs, only to come out of ST struggling again next year after spending the offseason "working in the cage" with his brother.

And that's exactly why I'm not declaring him a star. He's shown himself to be a streaky player. Hell, we have a whole roster of them!

ROYC75 · 10-04-2014, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I don't think Mike Moustakas ever hits .300 in a full season. Hell, I'd be satisfied with .280.

I do think he can be a .270/30 HR guy, though. Which would probably lead to him getting a lot of walks as well.

I'd be perfectly satisfied if he could hit .250 with 25 bombs and play consistently very good defense. That's a very reliable player and plus player at 3B.

Hosmer CAN be a .300/30 guy. Just a matter of him finding an approach that works and sticking with it. It honestly wouldn't surprise me at all to see Hosmer beast throughout the playoffs, only to come out of ST struggling again next year after spending the offseason "working in the cage" with his brother.

I agree with all this. Moose was picked so high because of his defense and ability to hit long ball.

Eric can hit to all fields now, Moose is just now learning to go the other way. That is the difference between a .270 hitter and a .290/ .300 hitter.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-04-2014, 01:35 PM

Hosmer can develop into a Freddie Freeman type hitter. I don't know if he'll ever display that type of power over the course of a full season, but he should be able to put up a respectable slash line and produce about a 130 wRC+.

Moustakas? I just don't see it. He might string together a season or two of good batted ball luck, but he's 26 now and he's gotten worse at the plate every year of his career, which is hard to do when you cut your K-rate by a third in the process.

He was somewhat unlucky this year, but he's probably never going to be more than a below average hitter, and you can't have that from a third baseman.

**Buehler445** · 10-04-2014, 02:01 PM

It'd be great if he's turn the corner.

All I know for sure is he's having a hell of a post season.

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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7239572	It's certainly inspiring to think so, but you have to remember that the postseason is a very small sample size. It's really not that much different from him having a hot week during the regular season. The execution is the same, but the stakes mean more. There have been a lot of mediocre baseball players who have gotten hot at the right time: Marco Scutaro, Craig Counsell, David Eckstein. I'm not saying that Hosmer is mediocre, but this binge isn't necessarily indicative of better things to come. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I remember arguing with Royals (and non Royals) fans about Hosmer and his place in the lineup after injury... Fruit Ninja, a bandwagon Dodgers fan, literally called me dumb for saying Hosmer was our starting first baseman regardless of how well Butler hit while playing first base That guy is embarrassing, really
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10-04-2014, 01:35 PM	#44
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7239572	Hosmer can develop into a Freddie Freeman type hitter. I don't know if he'll ever display that type of power over the course of a full season, but he should be able to put up a respectable slash line and produce about a 130 wRC+. Moustakas? I just don't see it. He might string together a season or two of good batted ball luck, but he's 26 now and he's gotten worse at the plate every year of his career, which is hard to do when you cut your K-rate by a third in the process. He was somewhat unlucky this year, but he's probably never going to be more than a below average hitter, and you can't have that from a third baseman. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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Buehler445 Supporter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Scott City KS Casino cash: $-1425266	It'd be great if he's turn the corner. All I know for sure is he's having a hell of a post season.
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