why Chiefs WRs have 0 TDs

[-King-]

Originally Posted by O.city

Not true.

The missed deep ball that Smith didn't throw to the open wr on the next to last drive was jenkins

He wasn't anywhere near open.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by -King-

He wasn't anywhere near open.

Anywhere near open or anywhere near Smith open?

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Anywhere near open or anywhere near Smith open?

Anywhere near open for anyone.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by -King-

Anywhere near open for anyone.

****ing bullshit.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by -King-

He wasn't anywhere near open.

He had a step on his guy. Most QBs ****ing throw that ball. Shit....Smith thought about it....shit himself and then threw a checkdown.

[Ragged Robin]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

He had a step on his guy. Most QBs ****ing throw that ball. Shit....Smith thought about it....shit himself and then threw a checkdown.

When I saw it, it looked like Cover 4 and Jenkins was initially running a deep in route and when it wasn't there he took it to the post instead and Smith went off that initial look. With more chemistry they might have been on the same page. Smith doesn't trust any of his receivers to win a jump ball (Week 1 anyone?).

I've noticed that most of Bowe's catches come when he's facing the LOS on a hitch or slant--basically anything that requires him tracking the ball and catching with his hands/high-pointing it he has difficulty with.. which is sad because his isn't Pop Warner.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Ragged Robin

When I saw it, it looked like Cover 4 and Jenkins was initially running a deep in route and when it wasn't there he took it to the post instead and Smith went off that initial look. With more chemistry they might have been on the same page. Smith doesn't trust any of his receivers to win a jump ball (Week 1 anyone?).

I've noticed that most of Bowe's catches come when he's facing the LOS on a hitch or slant--basically anything that requires him tracking the ball and catching with his hands/high-pointing it he has difficulty with.. which is sad because his isn't Pop Warner.

He's very one-dimensional.

[DTLB58]

Originally Posted by Ragged Robin

When I saw it, it looked like Cover 4 and Jenkins was initially running a deep in route and when it wasn't there he took it to the post instead and Smith went off that initial look. With more chemistry they might have been on the same page. Smith doesn't trust any of his receivers to win a jump ball (Week 1 anyone?).

I've noticed that most of Bowe's catches come when he's facing the LOS on a hitch or slant--basically anything that requires him tracking the ball and catching with his hands/high-pointing it he has difficulty with.. which is sad because his isn't Pop Warner.

Exactly. It's not like when Vermeil was here and everyone was running a go route and you would catch on the run with a full head of steam toward the goal line.
That's what Kelce was catching in the Preseason when Murray was throwing the ball to him.

[Ragged Robin]

Originally Posted by DTLB58

Exactly. It's not like when Vermeil was here and everyone was running a go route and you would catch on the run with a full head of steam toward the goal line.
That's what Kelce was catching in the Preseason when Murray was throwing the ball to him.

He had those two big plays in the preseason on a bang-8/post route which absolutely destroys zone coverage down the seam. Not sure why they haven't been able to hit on this yet, maybe defenses are playing a lot of man against him or Andy isn't dialing it up enough (the game-losing INT @ SF was on a TE post... to slow ass Fasano for some reason). They've hit on one (maybe two) corner routes with Kelce earlier in the year but it seems like most of his catches are designed routes to get him open in space via receiver screens or drags. Maybe he's not that skilled at route running or making contested catches at this point or they don't trust him enough or just simply think he's best used in a way that maximizes his YAC skills as opposed to a downfield threat.

I've also noticed that that cute quick receiver screen to him when the Patriots played off coverage that was so successful was setup against the Chargers except they used it as misdirection and handed it off to Charles on a draw several times in this game. I love this sort of week-to-week scheming like this by Andy.

EDIT: ALSO have you guys noticed that most of Alex's TDs this year have come off of plays BEHIND the actual goal line and then receiver running it in? I don't think they really trust Alex or the recievers that much down there I know historically with the Eagles Andy likes to screen in the redzone but we didn't really do it all that much last year and this year it's like every TD has come off of it

[O.city]

Originally Posted by -King-

He wasn't anywhere near open.

The defender is behind and trailing. That's open

[Red Dawg]

Originally Posted by O.city

The defender is behind and trailing. That's open

Yes but it's Jenkins. Not exactly a stud.

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by -King-

He wasn't anywhere near open.

If AJ is covered by 1 guy 25-30 yards down the field, it might as well be 3 guys. He sucks.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

If AJ is covered by 1 guy 25-30 yards down the field, it might as well be 3 guys. He sucks.

Amen. If there's a defender on the field, then Jenkins is covered. And Smith knows it.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Amen. If there's a defender on the field, then Jenkins is covered. And Smith knows it.

With a guy like Calvin Johnson in that exact situation? Sure... chuck it up and see what happens.

With a guy like AJJ? not a good idea. I mean, if AJJ had even a step on the CB, maybe take the shot.. but the CB was basically melded into him. AJJ is not going to come down with that ball.