Chiefs Let's talk about the ****ing Bills. - Page 6

Direckshun · 11-02-2014, 08:19 PM

This one is huge, people. If you didn't already know, and aren't already reading along in the two threads we're discussing this, this one could be for an NFL tiebreaker. Plus, it is a game we need to win so that we don't have to beat the league's most talented teams later to compensate.

The Bills are 5-3. We are 5-3. This, for all intents and purposes, is a playoff game. And it's in ****ing Buffalo, a place where they're almost as starved for playoff success as we are. Even worse, they're coming off a bye.

What the hell happened in Buffalo? This team was a hopeless dope of a franchise for years. They were awful last year. Now, they're suddenly competent and possibly even good? Without a running game??? What??

I'll tell you what happened. Kyle ****ing Orton happened. All of a sudden, the Bills have a QB who doesn't Belcher their entire chance at success. Orton can, you know, actually pass the ball, can adequately read defenses, and doesn't make gargantuan ****ing mistakes like EJ Manuel and Jeff Tuel did. And prepare yourself for this week, because Claythan is going to be blowing Orton all week and it's going to be ridiculous.

Orton's having a very good year by his standards, but there's two major catches to his success:

The Bills do not have a run game, and therefore depend on Orton for their offensive success.
He is still Kyle Orton.

That means you can expect Orton's effectiveness to evaporate like a Chiefs fan's hopes and dreams when he's under pressure. You can also expect him to struggle squeezing the ball into tight windows, which is why Orton has historically been terrible in the red zone.

He's been better this year in the red zone, but still nobody's idea of a world beater. The primary reason he's been getting some success is because they have their own Percy Harvin, which we apparently struggle mightily with, named Sammie Watkins. This Watkins kid isn't the polished route-runner that Harvin is, but he's bigger and every bit as athletic. He can absolutely torch people, and the Chiefs need to have this asshole on lockdown.

After that, they have several nice, adequate weapons in supporting roles. I've always really liked Scott Chandler at TE, and angled a few years back for the Chiefs to pick him up in FA. Mike Williams is a big WR who had a super productive year in Tampa and can still have a big catch from time to time, Robert Woods is a smooth route runner, and Marquise Goodwin is a re-****ing-diculous speedster.

At RB, it's a mess. Fred Jackson has missed time, and will probably be out. CJ Spiller is dead. Their lead RB, and this is true, is a guy named Boobie Dixon. Also known as Anthony Dixon, he was a 245 lbs, fatass plodder that the 49ers could never find use for. He's meh. They also have Bryce Brown, who is alright.

I really like their OL, which is a reason Orton's been able to sling it fairly well. Cordy Glenn is a ridiculous monster athlete of a LT, but he's still learning and is very young. Seantrel Henderson is another extremely large, very athletic tackle at RT, just a great pair of gigantic athletes there. Erik Wood is a decent, capable center, nothing special, but I don't know much about how Cyril Richardson and Erik Pears are playing at guard. Maybe we've got some New Englanders here who can enlighten us.

So that's a capable offense. But the defense is why they are 5-3.

This defensive line is impossible. Mario Williams is not the game changer he once was, but he gets his off the edge. The middle of the DL is probably the best the NFL has to offer: Marcel Dareus and Kyle Williams are ****ing impossible. They disrupt anything and everything, and are ferocious against the pass (Dareus has SEVEN SACKS) and the run. Shit... is about to get real. Off the other edge they have Jerry Hughes, a former 1st round bust who is off pace to notch 11 sack this year. This DL is the worst.

I don't know anything about Nigel Bradham at OLB, who apparently leads their team in tackles. Keith Rivers is injured again, so they play rookie Preston Brown at the other OLB spot -- Brown is not terribly athletic, but is a sound tackler. They have Brandon Spikes at ILB, the epitome of slow and heady.

Expect a heavy dosage of Stephon Gilmore on Bowe. Gilmore is a physical, smart corner who is a true #1 CB. Leonis McKelvin is a former 1st round bust -- great athlete, but very average at the #2 CB position -- which is probably enough against our poverty receiving corps.

Aaron Williams has been reborn as a very good safety in Buffalo after playing poorly as a CB early in his career. I don't know a damn thing about Da'Norris Searcy but his stats indicate a jack of all trades, and a master of none.

This is one of those games you get up for, people. It's going to be a very intense week getting up for this game, and having to put up with Claynus' Orton-whoring this week won't make it much better.

Let's win this ****ing game.

Hammock Parties · 11-02-2014, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

That's it, by the way.

That's the three teams Orton has beaten. The Jets, the Vikes, and a very good Lions team that didn't have a kicker.

If we lose to the Bills we lose to a crappy team, you're saying?

Mother****erJones · 11-02-2014, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth

If we lose to the Bills we lose to a crappy team, you're saying?

I think he's saying they're not the '85 Bears you're making them out to be Clay.

Direckshun · 11-02-2014, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth

If we lose to the Bills we lose to a crappy team, you're saying?

We'd lose to an inferior team.

Crappy is a bridge too far. That offense doesn't seem to have much juice to it but that's a defense in its own house that will make life tricky.

Fritz88 · 11-02-2014, 11:41 PM

I think they beat us.
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Direckshun · 11-02-2014, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Fritz88

I think they beat us.
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Mods please ban.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-02-2014, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Fritz88

I think they beat us.
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How? They can't run the ball, their special teams aren't special and Orton is pure garbage.

So how do they beat the Chiefs?

Hammock Parties · 11-02-2014, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Orton is pure garbage.

105 QB rating this year. Sure about that?

bshmerlie · 11-02-2014, 11:50 PM

not worried Chiefs win 24-17.

i do agree with something someone said earlier...this game may have playoff implications. This could be a tie breaker game. We NEED to beat the Bills. It is a very important game. This was a very good weekend for us. The Broncos and the Chargers lost. Lets keep winning the games we should win.

Mother****erJones · 11-02-2014, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth

105 QB rating this year. Sure about that?

We all know Orton is a between the 20s QB. He will **** up. It's inevitable. Just like he ****ed us when we played Oakland and he had 2 awful red zone INTs.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-02-2014, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth

105 QB rating this year. Sure about that?

Yeah, I'm pretty ****ing sure, Moron

Hammock Parties · 11-02-2014, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yeah, I'm pretty ****ing sure, Moron

Why do you think Orton is playing well, despite being garbage?

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-02-2014, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth

Why do you think Orton is playing well, despite being garbage?

Oh, you mean the 10 passes he threw last Sunday?

Do you even WATCH NFL games?

Mother****erJones · 11-03-2014, 12:00 AM

The only thing that worries me this weekend is buffalo has been bad for us. But we won last year. We should do it again.

mcaj22 · 11-03-2014, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175

What kind of Watkins tape are you watching?

the tape where Watkins has 11 receptions for 270 yards and 3 touchdowns in the last TWO games he's played? He's trending upward in their gameplan and is heavily involved now that they switched to Orton

Watkins has done more in two games statistically than any Chiefs WR has done in 8 games.

He absolutely needs to be shut down if we want to win.

Hammock Parties · 11-03-2014, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Oh, you mean the 10 passes he threw last Sunday?

Do you even WATCH NFL games?

It would appear you don't.

Orton has been playing well (9 TD/3INT/8YPA) and is the key to their winning streak.

What's not to like?

11-02-2014, 08:19 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2103447	Let's talk about the ing Bills. This one is huge, people. If you didn't already know, and aren't already reading along in the two threads we're discussing this, this one could be for an NFL tiebreaker. Plus, it is a game we need to win so that we don't have to beat the league's most talented teams later to compensate. The Bills are 5-3. We are 5-3. This, for all intents and purposes, is a playoff game. And it's in ***ing Buffalo, a place where they're almost* as starved for playoff success as we are. Even worse, they're coming off a bye. What the hell happened in Buffalo? This team was a hopeless dope of a franchise for years. They were awful last year. Now, they're suddenly competent and possibly even good? Without a running game??? What?? I'll tell you what happened. Kyle **ing Orton happened. All of a sudden, the Bills have a QB who doesn't Belcher their entire chance at success. Orton can, you know, actually pass the ball, can adequately read defenses, and doesn't make gargantuan ing mistakes like EJ Manuel and Jeff Tuel did. And prepare yourself for this week, because Claythan is going to be blowing Orton all week and it's going to be ridiculous. Orton's having a very good year by his standards, but there's two major catches to his success: The Bills do not have a run game, and therefore depend on Orton for their offensive success. He is still Kyle Orton. That means you can expect Orton's effectiveness to evaporate like a Chiefs fan's hopes and dreams when he's under pressure. You can also expect him to struggle squeezing the ball into tight windows, which is why Orton has historically been terrible in the red zone. He's been better this year in the red zone, but still nobody's idea of a world beater. The primary reason he's been getting some success is because they have their own Percy Harvin, which we apparently struggle mightily with, named Sammie Watkins. This Watkins kid isn't the polished route-runner that Harvin is, but he's bigger and every bit as athletic. He can absolutely torch people, and the Chiefs need to have this asshole on lockdown. After that, they have several nice, adequate weapons in supporting roles. I've always really liked Scott Chandler at TE, and angled a few years back for the Chiefs to pick him up in FA. Mike Williams is a big WR who had a super productive year in Tampa and can still have a big catch from time to time, Robert Woods is a smooth route runner, and Marquise Goodwin is a re-ing-diculous speedster. At RB, it's a mess. Fred Jackson has missed time, and will probably be out. CJ Spiller is dead. Their lead RB, and this is true, is a guy named Boobie Dixon. Also known as Anthony Dixon, he was a 245 lbs, fatass plodder that the 49ers could never find use for. He's meh. They also have Bryce Brown, who is alright. I really like their OL, which is a reason Orton's been able to sling it fairly well. Cordy Glenn is a ridiculous monster athlete of a LT, but he's still learning and is very young. Seantrel Henderson is another extremely large, very athletic tackle at RT, just a great pair of gigantic athletes there. Erik Wood is a decent, capable center, nothing special, but I don't know much about how Cyril Richardson and Erik Pears are playing at guard. Maybe we've got some New Englanders here who can enlighten us. So that's a capable offense. But the defense is why they are 5-3. This defensive line is impossible. Mario Williams is not the game changer he once was, but he gets his off the edge. The middle of the DL is probably the best the NFL has to offer: Marcel Dareus and Kyle Williams are ing impossible. They disrupt anything and everything, and are ferocious against the pass (Dareus has SEVEN SACKS) and the run. Shit... is about to get real. Off the other edge they have Jerry Hughes, a former 1st round bust who is off pace to notch 11 sack this year. This DL is the worst. I don't know anything about Nigel Bradham at OLB, who apparently leads their team in tackles. Keith Rivers is injured again, so they play rookie Preston Brown at the other OLB spot -- Brown is not terribly athletic, but is a sound tackler. They have Brandon Spikes at ILB, the epitome of slow and heady. Expect a heavy dosage of Stephon Gilmore on Bowe. Gilmore is a physical, smart corner who is a true #1 CB. Leonis McKelvin is a former 1st round bust -- great athlete, but very average at the #2 CB position -- which is probably enough against our poverty receiving corps. Aaron Williams has been reborn as a very good safety in Buffalo after playing poorly as a CB early in his career. I don't know a damn thing about Da'Norris Searcy but his stats indicate a jack of all trades, and a master of none. This is one of those games you get up for, people. It's going to be a very intense week getting up for this game, and having to put up with Claynus' Orton-whoring this week won't make it much better. Let's win this **ing game.
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bshmerlie Starter Join Date: Sep 2013 Casino cash: $10006610	not worried Chiefs win 24-17. i do agree with something someone said earlier...this game may have playoff implications. This could be a tie breaker game. We NEED to beat the Bills. It is a very important game. This was a very good weekend for us. The Broncos and the Chargers lost. Lets keep winning the games we should win.
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