Let's talk about the ****ing Bills.

[Direckshun]

This one is huge, people. If you didn't already know, and aren't already reading along in the two threads we're discussing this, this one could be for an NFL tiebreaker. Plus, it is a game we need to win so that we don't have to beat the league's most talented teams later to compensate.

The Bills are 5-3. We are 5-3. This, for all intents and purposes, is a playoff game. And it's in ****ing Buffalo, a place where they're almost as starved for playoff success as we are. Even worse, they're coming off a bye.

What the hell happened in Buffalo? This team was a hopeless dope of a franchise for years. They were awful last year. Now, they're suddenly competent and possibly even good? Without a running game??? What??

I'll tell you what happened. Kyle ****ing Orton happened. All of a sudden, the Bills have a QB who doesn't Belcher their entire chance at success. Orton can, you know, actually pass the ball, can adequately read defenses, and doesn't make gargantuan ****ing mistakes like EJ Manuel and Jeff Tuel did. And prepare yourself for this week, because Claythan is going to be blowing Orton all week and it's going to be ridiculous.

Orton's having a very good year by his standards, but there's two major catches to his success:

• The Bills do not have a run game, and therefore depend on Orton for their offensive success.
• He is still Kyle Orton.

That means you can expect Orton's effectiveness to evaporate like a Chiefs fan's hopes and dreams when he's under pressure. You can also expect him to struggle squeezing the ball into tight windows, which is why Orton has historically been terrible in the red zone.

He's been better this year in the red zone, but still nobody's idea of a world beater. The primary reason he's been getting some success is because they have their own Percy Harvin, which we apparently struggle mightily with, named Sammie Watkins. This Watkins kid isn't the polished route-runner that Harvin is, but he's bigger and every bit as athletic. He can absolutely torch people, and the Chiefs need to have this asshole on lockdown.

After that, they have several nice, adequate weapons in supporting roles. I've always really liked Scott Chandler at TE, and angled a few years back for the Chiefs to pick him up in FA. Mike Williams is a big WR who had a super productive year in Tampa and can still have a big catch from time to time, Robert Woods is a smooth route runner, and Marquise Goodwin is a re-****ing-diculous speedster.

At RB, it's a mess. Fred Jackson has missed time, and will probably be out. CJ Spiller is dead. Their lead RB, and this is true, is a guy named Boobie Dixon. Also known as Anthony Dixon, he was a 245 lbs, fatass plodder that the 49ers could never find use for. He's meh. They also have Bryce Brown, who is alright.

I really like their OL, which is a reason Orton's been able to sling it fairly well. Cordy Glenn is a ridiculous monster athlete of a LT, but he's still learning and is very young. Seantrel Henderson is another extremely large, very athletic tackle at RT, just a great pair of gigantic athletes there. Erik Wood is a decent, capable center, nothing special, but I don't know much about how Cyril Richardson and Erik Pears are playing at guard. Maybe we've got some New Englanders here who can enlighten us.

So that's a capable offense. But the defense is why they are 5-3.

This defensive line is impossible. Mario Williams is not the game changer he once was, but he gets his off the edge. The middle of the DL is probably the best the NFL has to offer: Marcel Dareus and Kyle Williams are ****ing impossible. They disrupt anything and everything, and are ferocious against the pass (Dareus has SEVEN SACKS) and the run. Shit... is about to get real. Off the other edge they have Jerry Hughes, a former 1st round bust who is off pace to notch 11 sack this year. This DL is the worst.

I don't know anything about Nigel Bradham at OLB, who apparently leads their team in tackles. Keith Rivers is injured again, so they play rookie Preston Brown at the other OLB spot -- Brown is not terribly athletic, but is a sound tackler. They have Brandon Spikes at ILB, the epitome of slow and heady.

Expect a heavy dosage of Stephon Gilmore on Bowe. Gilmore is a physical, smart corner who is a true #1 CB. Leonis McKelvin is a former 1st round bust -- great athlete, but very average at the #2 CB position -- which is probably enough against our poverty receiving corps.

Aaron Williams has been reborn as a very good safety in Buffalo after playing poorly as a CB early in his career. I don't know a damn thing about Da'Norris Searcy but his stats indicate a jack of all trades, and a master of none.

This is one of those games you get up for, people. It's going to be a very intense week getting up for this game, and having to put up with Claynus' Orton-whoring this week won't make it much better.

Let's win this ****ing game.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Count Zarth

Scored all of 17 pts.

Curious:

How's the ol' "when the opponent scores x-amount of points, Axl loses"-stat holding up?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by 505 Chief

Curious:

How's the ol' "when the opponent scores x-amount of points, Axl loses"-stat holding up?

Alex has escaped the 24-point barrier for a few weeks now.

Holding strong at 3-33-1, 0-2 this year.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Count Zarth

Alex has escaped the 24-point barrier for a few weeks now.

Holding strong at 3-33-1, 0-2 this year.

Improvement we can all believe in!

[OCinBuffalo]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

OCinBuffalo, if I knew the first damn thing about uploading things to youtube I'd be all over you like the proverbial white on rice... since May of this year I've been doing no fewer than 4 days a week workouts and the highlight of all of them has been elevated pushups and pullups with a backpack filled with 20-40 pounds of free weights.

Used to max out my Army pushups on PT tests in the early 20's... could smash that now even in my nearly mid 40's, they'd have to give me extra credit or something.

I appreciate the smack, I genuinely am glad you guys get to keep your team because you deserve it, you've stuck with them through proverbial thick and thin... much like Kansas City fans.

But I would probably do more elevated AND weighted pushups than you do regular ones... rock on though, Buffalo... I took a little heat for saying Orton would make you guys look respectable again, turns out I was right.... just like 75% of the other times.

Ah but did you max the pushups, situps, the 2 mile, and the IOC, like I did in my late teens?

Let me respond to you and to the others in this thread regarding our ownership resolution:
We all deeply appreciate the sentiment and support of real NFL fans, like you guys. Especially those from KC, Green Bay, etc., places where the game/history means more than the $, because it's a generational part of your family.

You can count on us having your 6, like you've had ours, and raising hell if anyone tries to screw with your team. The BillsMafia/Bills Backers and Buffalo Fan Alliance have large numbers, and we are highly organized. Example: The Fan Alliance can now loan Pegula(new owner) $300 million, interest-free, for the new stadium(not that he needs it, but the BFA plan was set in motion years ago). There's no reason why the Buffalo Fan Alliance couldn't turn into the NFL Small Market alliance, or the anti-Jerry Jones alliance, very quickly.

But, the bet was about naked pushups. Not just pushups, and, the bet was about whether Kyle Orton is doing a wonderful job mentoring EJ, which he is.

In fact the latest is that Orton won't do a meeting with the coaches without bringing EJ along. I never wanted us to start EJ as a rookie, and the team didn't want to either: but Kevin Kolb tripped on a mat, busted his knee....and the rest is history.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by OCinBuffalo

The Fan Alliance can now loan Pegula(new owner) $300 million, interest-free, for the new stadium(not that he needs it, but the BFA plan was set in motion years ago).

waaaaaaaaat

[BmoreBills]

This game will come down to two questions:

1. Can Alex Smith throw the ball down the field effectively?
2. Will Kyle Orton be able to survive the constant pressure due to a shoddy OL?

From what I have seen from the Chiefs, Alex Smith hasn't been forced to win a game by his arm... he has deferred to the running game of Charles and Davis. In the losses, he hasn't proven to be a clutch QB.

My Bills have a different problem... the Bills have been forced to go to Orton to win games because our running game has stalled and the offensive line has been putrid. This speaks directly to the underappreciated skills of Orton, but this model is unsustainable- he is bound to eventually take one hit too many.

That's my basic analysis. I have always enjoyed a Bills/Chiefs game because we're AFL brothers that have always done it with class. See you all on Sunday!

P.S. Sorry about the Royals... as a Pirates fan, I was hoping you'd win.

BMoreBills

[Direckshun]

Some high quality Bills fans here.

I didn't even know we had a single one.

[OCinBuffalo]

Hell, we've been playing you so many years in a row...I started here in 2011.

BTW, our response(2 Bills Drive) to this thread can be found here: http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topi.../#entry3325452

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Some high quality Bills fans here.

I didn't even know we had a single one.

I got really creeped out by the naked pushups thing.

OCinBuffalo creeps me out.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by SNR

I got really creeped out by the naked pushups thing.

OCinBuffalo creeps me out.

Well, ****... I engaged him in that conversation, guess I'm pissing everyone around here off lately.

I'll quit drinking, I swear...

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by SNR

I got really creeped out by the naked pushups thing.

OCinBuffalo creeps me out.

I like it. It reminds me of my uncle.

I seem to forget why, though. Almost like I've blotted out a large part of my youth by sheer force of will.

Oh well. Nude pushups, anybody?

[Mav]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

Well, ****... I engaged him in that conversation, guess I'm pissing everyone around here off lately.

I'll quit drinking, I swear...

You have never pissed me off. Keep doing your thing.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

I like it. It reminds me of my uncle.

I seem to forget why, though. Almost like I've blotted out a large part of my youth by sheer force of will.

Oh well. Nude pushups, anybody?

[Hammock Parties]

A win is crucial.

[Direckshun]

Man, you are NOT kidding.

It's crazy to say out loud, but get ready for this:

We have to win this game, in order for us to keep pace with the Browns.