Chiefs Let's talk about the ****ing Bills. - Page 28

Direckshun · 11-02-2014, 08:19 PM

This one is huge, people. If you didn't already know, and aren't already reading along in the two threads we're discussing this, this one could be for an NFL tiebreaker. Plus, it is a game we need to win so that we don't have to beat the league's most talented teams later to compensate.

The Bills are 5-3. We are 5-3. This, for all intents and purposes, is a playoff game. And it's in ****ing Buffalo, a place where they're almost as starved for playoff success as we are. Even worse, they're coming off a bye.

What the hell happened in Buffalo? This team was a hopeless dope of a franchise for years. They were awful last year. Now, they're suddenly competent and possibly even good? Without a running game??? What??

I'll tell you what happened. Kyle ****ing Orton happened. All of a sudden, the Bills have a QB who doesn't Belcher their entire chance at success. Orton can, you know, actually pass the ball, can adequately read defenses, and doesn't make gargantuan ****ing mistakes like EJ Manuel and Jeff Tuel did. And prepare yourself for this week, because Claythan is going to be blowing Orton all week and it's going to be ridiculous.

Orton's having a very good year by his standards, but there's two major catches to his success:

The Bills do not have a run game, and therefore depend on Orton for their offensive success.
He is still Kyle Orton.

That means you can expect Orton's effectiveness to evaporate like a Chiefs fan's hopes and dreams when he's under pressure. You can also expect him to struggle squeezing the ball into tight windows, which is why Orton has historically been terrible in the red zone.

He's been better this year in the red zone, but still nobody's idea of a world beater. The primary reason he's been getting some success is because they have their own Percy Harvin, which we apparently struggle mightily with, named Sammie Watkins. This Watkins kid isn't the polished route-runner that Harvin is, but he's bigger and every bit as athletic. He can absolutely torch people, and the Chiefs need to have this asshole on lockdown.

After that, they have several nice, adequate weapons in supporting roles. I've always really liked Scott Chandler at TE, and angled a few years back for the Chiefs to pick him up in FA. Mike Williams is a big WR who had a super productive year in Tampa and can still have a big catch from time to time, Robert Woods is a smooth route runner, and Marquise Goodwin is a re-****ing-diculous speedster.

At RB, it's a mess. Fred Jackson has missed time, and will probably be out. CJ Spiller is dead. Their lead RB, and this is true, is a guy named Boobie Dixon. Also known as Anthony Dixon, he was a 245 lbs, fatass plodder that the 49ers could never find use for. He's meh. They also have Bryce Brown, who is alright.

I really like their OL, which is a reason Orton's been able to sling it fairly well. Cordy Glenn is a ridiculous monster athlete of a LT, but he's still learning and is very young. Seantrel Henderson is another extremely large, very athletic tackle at RT, just a great pair of gigantic athletes there. Erik Wood is a decent, capable center, nothing special, but I don't know much about how Cyril Richardson and Erik Pears are playing at guard. Maybe we've got some New Englanders here who can enlighten us.

So that's a capable offense. But the defense is why they are 5-3.

This defensive line is impossible. Mario Williams is not the game changer he once was, but he gets his off the edge. The middle of the DL is probably the best the NFL has to offer: Marcel Dareus and Kyle Williams are ****ing impossible. They disrupt anything and everything, and are ferocious against the pass (Dareus has SEVEN SACKS) and the run. Shit... is about to get real. Off the other edge they have Jerry Hughes, a former 1st round bust who is off pace to notch 11 sack this year. This DL is the worst.

I don't know anything about Nigel Bradham at OLB, who apparently leads their team in tackles. Keith Rivers is injured again, so they play rookie Preston Brown at the other OLB spot -- Brown is not terribly athletic, but is a sound tackler. They have Brandon Spikes at ILB, the epitome of slow and heady.

Expect a heavy dosage of Stephon Gilmore on Bowe. Gilmore is a physical, smart corner who is a true #1 CB. Leonis McKelvin is a former 1st round bust -- great athlete, but very average at the #2 CB position -- which is probably enough against our poverty receiving corps.

Aaron Williams has been reborn as a very good safety in Buffalo after playing poorly as a CB early in his career. I don't know a damn thing about Da'Norris Searcy but his stats indicate a jack of all trades, and a master of none.

This is one of those games you get up for, people. It's going to be a very intense week getting up for this game, and having to put up with Claynus' Orton-whoring this week won't make it much better.

Let's win this ****ing game.

ToxSocks · 11-07-2014, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Some games are more equal than others.

If we win, our playoff hopes rise to around 60%.

If we lose, they drop to at LEAST half of that.

Yeah, bullshit. This the NFL, shit happens, teams lose, teams win, teams fall apart down the stretch etc.

The Chargers were 4-7 Last season when they put together a run, snuck into the playoffs and got a Playoff win.

I don't wanna hear any more girlie ass-dramatic shit from you or anyone else if the Chiefs lose on Sunday.

**Rausch** · 11-07-2014, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

I don't wanna hear any more girlie ass-dramatic shit from you or anyone else if the Chiefs lose on Sunday.

MATH says they're two games up on us if we lose.

ToxSocks · 11-07-2014, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

MATH says they're two games up on us if we lose.

MATH also says that there's still half a season to be played.

Direckshun · 11-07-2014, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Yeah, bullshit. This the NFL, shit happens, teams lose, teams win, teams fall apart down the stretch etc.

The Chargers were 4-7 Last season when they put together a run, snuck into the playoffs and got a Playoff win.

I don't wanna hear any more girlie ass-dramatic shit from you or anyone else if the Chiefs lose on Sunday.

I actually think I've been fairly level on the issue, but sure, opinions that disagree with yours are "girly ass-dramatic shit."

**Mav** · 11-07-2014, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I honestly think the Ravens are in a spiral, too. They just lost Jimmy Smith for the season, too.

You being bear-ish on the Steelers surprises me. What leads you to that conclusion?

Sick of being the little Brother. That 31-10 ass whooping liberated me. And them beating up on the ravens who like you said, and I said, are finished.

I need to see them explode on a good team, before I think of them as anything but the team that came to Cleveland and got shit stomped.

**Rausch** · 11-07-2014, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

MATH also says that there's still half a season to be played.

MATH also says if we lose 2 more AFC games our odds of earning a playoff bid are shot...

O.city · 11-07-2014, 11:55 AM

Jackson and Watkins listed as questionable for Sunday.

ToxSocks · 11-07-2014, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I actually think I've been fairly level on the issue, but sure, opinions that disagree with yours are "girly ass-dramatic shit."

You? Fairly level?

C'mon dude.

After your week 1 "fire everyone" breakdown and the fact that you're already started preparing yourself to be eliminated from the playoffs if we lose on Sunday, i don't think we can call you "fairly level".

Yes, it is "Girlie ass-dramatic shit". A loss on Sunday doesn't mean anything other than we're 1 more game in the deficit.

You're overly worried about Wild-Card breakers when you don't even know if Orton and the Bills can sustain success for the remainder of the season.

I agree that it's an important game RIGHT NOW, but by the end of the season we may look back and this game might not have mattered nearly as much as we thought.

**Rausch** · 11-07-2014, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

I agree that it's an important game RIGHT NOW, but by the end of the season we may look back and this game might not have mattered nearly as much as we thought.

All AFC games matter...

ToxSocks · 11-07-2014, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

All AFC games matter...

"as much as we thought".

As in, a tie breaker with Buffalo might not matter because there's a good chance Orton doesn't sustain the kind of success (which hasn't exactly been overly impressive to this point) for the remainder of the season.

My point being, losing to Buff on Sunday isn't the end of the world.

ThaVirus · 11-07-2014, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

"as much as we thought".

As in, a tie breaker with Buffalo might not matter because there's a good chance Orton doesn't sustain the kind of success (which hasn't exactly been overly impressive to this point) for the remainder of the season.

My point being, losing to Buff on Sunday isn't the end of the world.

Wouldn't matter.

If the Bills collapse we'll still need all the AFC wins we can muster for a conference tie breaker.

I'm not saying this is a must-win because there's still 7 games to play afterward, but it is pretty vital.

Mother****erJones · 11-07-2014, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mav

Sick of being the little Brother. That 31-10 ass whooping liberated me. And them beating up on the ravens who like you said, and I said, are finished.

I need to see them explode on a good team, before I think of them as anything but the team that came to Cleveland and got shit stomped.

They did that to Batimore and Indy

**Mav** · 11-07-2014, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

They did that to Batimore and Indy

I forgot Indy. Hmmm. I still say **** em. You ready for tar heel season sir?

ToxSocks · 11-07-2014, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I'm not saying this is a must-win because there's still 7 games to play afterward, but it is pretty vital.

I agree that it's vital, just sayin' im not gonna log in after a lose and make a thread about how it's near impossible to make the playoffs now.

ToxSocks · 11-07-2014, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I'm not saying this is a must-win because there's still 7 games to play afterward, but it is pretty vital.

I agree that it most certainly helps a lot, just sayin' im not gonna log in after a lose and make a thread about how it's near impossible to make the playoffs now.

11-02-2014, 08:19 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2083447	Let's talk about the ing Bills. This one is huge, people. If you didn't already know, and aren't already reading along in the two threads we're discussing this, this one could be for an NFL tiebreaker. Plus, it is a game we need to win so that we don't have to beat the league's most talented teams later to compensate. The Bills are 5-3. We are 5-3. This, for all intents and purposes, is a playoff game. And it's in ***ing Buffalo, a place where they're almost* as starved for playoff success as we are. Even worse, they're coming off a bye. What the hell happened in Buffalo? This team was a hopeless dope of a franchise for years. They were awful last year. Now, they're suddenly competent and possibly even good? Without a running game??? What?? I'll tell you what happened. Kyle **ing Orton happened. All of a sudden, the Bills have a QB who doesn't Belcher their entire chance at success. Orton can, you know, actually pass the ball, can adequately read defenses, and doesn't make gargantuan ing mistakes like EJ Manuel and Jeff Tuel did. And prepare yourself for this week, because Claythan is going to be blowing Orton all week and it's going to be ridiculous. Orton's having a very good year by his standards, but there's two major catches to his success: The Bills do not have a run game, and therefore depend on Orton for their offensive success. He is still Kyle Orton. That means you can expect Orton's effectiveness to evaporate like a Chiefs fan's hopes and dreams when he's under pressure. You can also expect him to struggle squeezing the ball into tight windows, which is why Orton has historically been terrible in the red zone. He's been better this year in the red zone, but still nobody's idea of a world beater. The primary reason he's been getting some success is because they have their own Percy Harvin, which we apparently struggle mightily with, named Sammie Watkins. This Watkins kid isn't the polished route-runner that Harvin is, but he's bigger and every bit as athletic. He can absolutely torch people, and the Chiefs need to have this asshole on lockdown. After that, they have several nice, adequate weapons in supporting roles. I've always really liked Scott Chandler at TE, and angled a few years back for the Chiefs to pick him up in FA. Mike Williams is a big WR who had a super productive year in Tampa and can still have a big catch from time to time, Robert Woods is a smooth route runner, and Marquise Goodwin is a re-ing-diculous speedster. At RB, it's a mess. Fred Jackson has missed time, and will probably be out. CJ Spiller is dead. Their lead RB, and this is true, is a guy named Boobie Dixon. Also known as Anthony Dixon, he was a 245 lbs, fatass plodder that the 49ers could never find use for. He's meh. They also have Bryce Brown, who is alright. I really like their OL, which is a reason Orton's been able to sling it fairly well. Cordy Glenn is a ridiculous monster athlete of a LT, but he's still learning and is very young. Seantrel Henderson is another extremely large, very athletic tackle at RT, just a great pair of gigantic athletes there. Erik Wood is a decent, capable center, nothing special, but I don't know much about how Cyril Richardson and Erik Pears are playing at guard. Maybe we've got some New Englanders here who can enlighten us. So that's a capable offense. But the defense is why they are 5-3. This defensive line is impossible. Mario Williams is not the game changer he once was, but he gets his off the edge. The middle of the DL is probably the best the NFL has to offer: Marcel Dareus and Kyle Williams are ing impossible. They disrupt anything and everything, and are ferocious against the pass (Dareus has SEVEN SACKS) and the run. Shit... is about to get real. Off the other edge they have Jerry Hughes, a former 1st round bust who is off pace to notch 11 sack this year. This DL is the worst. I don't know anything about Nigel Bradham at OLB, who apparently leads their team in tackles. Keith Rivers is injured again, so they play rookie Preston Brown at the other OLB spot -- Brown is not terribly athletic, but is a sound tackler. They have Brandon Spikes at ILB, the epitome of slow and heady. Expect a heavy dosage of Stephon Gilmore on Bowe. Gilmore is a physical, smart corner who is a true #1 CB. Leonis McKelvin is a former 1st round bust -- great athlete, but very average at the #2 CB position -- which is probably enough against our poverty receiving corps. Aaron Williams has been reborn as a very good safety in Buffalo after playing poorly as a CB early in his career. I don't know a damn thing about Da'Norris Searcy but his stats indicate a jack of all trades, and a master of none. This is one of those games you get up for, people. It's going to be a very intense week getting up for this game, and having to put up with Claynus' Orton-whoring this week won't make it much better. Let's win this **ing game.
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