Talking Draft Prospects - Page 18

Direckshun · 08:24 PM

We've got perhaps the biggest, most consequential draft coming up for this franchise since 2008. The Chiefs have all seven of their picks, and will certainly be picking up an additional four in compensatory picks, one of which is assuredly a 3rd rounder.

As a result, it's important to familiarize ourselves with as much of this draft class as possible. I started a thread last offseason that discussed late rounders that was generally well liked and spurred tons of great conversation on all sorts of draft picks we normally wouldn't talk about, so I'm going to duplicate that idea this year, only discussing all talents, rather than just the mid- and lower-round ones.

The OP will be continually updated to show the talent I'm reviewing by position. Keep in mind as I list these players that I am generally listing their round projections, but it is not a strict big board, as I likely won't have a big board put together until May.

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kccrow · 11-20-2014, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

They're lower against the run because of their defensive alignment, not because of the defensive lineman.

If there's a liability in the run game, it's JMJ, not Jaye Howard.

I support this message.

O.city · 11-20-2014, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Well, that's what I'm saying. Howard is playing well and is only 25. Why replace him with a 22 or 23 year old first rounder?

There will be plenty of guys available from the 3-7th that can be rotational players. It would be a wasted first round pick, IMO, and the Chiefs have far greater needs.

Hopefully they don't draft for needs there tho

RunKC · 11-20-2014, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

They're lower against the run because of their defensive alignment, not because of the defensive lineman.

If there's a liability in the run game, it's JMJ, not Jaye Howard.

He's a big part no doubt, but the DL is also part of it IMO.

Don't sit here and tell me that if Everett Goldman or Danny Shelton don't entice you. Jaye Howard is great depth but he's not a starter.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-20-2014, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

He's a big part no doubt, but the DL is also part of it IMO.

Don't sit here and tell me that if Everett Goldman or Danny Shelton don't entice you. Jaye Howard is great depth but he's not a starter.

It's extremely unlikely that either guy will be there in the mid-to-late 20's

Sandy Vagina · 11-20-2014, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's extremely unlikely that either guy will be there in the mid-to-late 20's

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's way too early to make any kind of assessment

kccrow · 11-20-2014, 10:57 PM

Trade it all to move up to #1 for Mariota....

RunKC · 11-20-2014, 10:57 PM

Scratch that. CB is by far #1 need hands down

kccrow · 11-20-2014, 11:39 PM

I like QB Shane Carden out of ECU around round 4 or 5. Need to continue put some pressure on Smith. Carden needs to learn the pro style system, but he reads from the spread well and has a good arm. Isn't scared to put the ball in some tight spots to his receivers.

OldSchool · 11-21-2014, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Scratch that. CB is by far #1 need hands down

1st round - Jaelen Strong, WR, ASU
2nd round - Marcus Peters, CB, WAS

Problem fixed. Well, most of them. After that go back to back OL in the 3rd and 4th.

jonzie04 · 11-21-2014, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

1st round - Jaelen Strong, WR, ASU
2nd round - Marcus Peters, CB, WAS

Problem fixed. Well, most of them. After that go back to back OL in the 3rd and 4th.

god i would bust a nut for this, we have to bring in a quality guard in FA and an ilb who doesnt suck though...

Sandy Vagina · 11-21-2014, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

1st round - Jaelen Strong, WR, ASU
2nd round - Marcus Peters, CB, WAS

Problem fixed. Well, most of them. After that go back to back OL in the 3rd and 4th.

Love this.

dls6501 · 11-21-2014, 01:23 PM

I think our biggest needs are OL, ILB, CB. I dont follow college football enough to have an opinion on specific players, but these are the positions I would focus on.

ILChief · 11-22-2014, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by dls6501

I think our biggest needs are OL, ILB, CB. I dont follow college football enough to have an opinion on specific players, but these are the positions I would focus on.

Yeah we are good at wideout with Hemmingway and AJ Jenkins. I wouldn't waste any picks there.

Sandy Vagina · 11-22-2014, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ILChief

Yeah we are good at wideout with Hemmingway and AJ Jenkins. I wouldn't waste any picks there.

RunKC · 11-24-2014, 01:38 PM

We absolutely need another quality 3-4 DE. Losing DeVito put us way behind. While it's nice that Jaye Howard stepped up, we basically only have Vickerson and Walker to help, but we need Walker to spell Poe bc he's playing too much as it is.

3-4 DE will be a big need this offseason.

09-24-2014, 02:22 AM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Talking Draft Prospects We've got perhaps the biggest, most consequential draft coming up for this franchise since 2008. The Chiefs have all seven of their picks, and will certainly be picking up an additional four in compensatory picks, one of which is assuredly a 3rd rounder. As a result, it's important to familiarize ourselves with as much of this draft class as possible. I started a thread last offseason that discussed late rounders that was generally well liked and spurred tons of great conversation on all sorts of draft picks we normally wouldn't talk about, so I'm going to duplicate that idea this year, only discussing all talents, rather than just the mid- and lower-round ones. The OP will be continually updated to show the talent I'm reviewing by position. Keep in mind as I list these players that I am generally listing their round projections, but it is not a strict big board, as I likely won't have a big board put together until May. Spoiler! QB Marcus Mariota, Oregon Jameis Winston, Florida State Brett Hundley, UCLA Connor Cook, Michigan State RB Todd Gurley, Georgia Melvin Gordon, Wisconsin Ameer Abdullah, Nebraska Mike Davis, South Carolina T.J. Yeldon, Alabama Tevin Coleman, Indiana Duke Johnson, Miami Jay Ajayi, Boise State FB WR Sammie Coates, Auburn Amari Cooper, Alabama Dorial Green-Beckham, Oklahoma Ty Montgomery, Stanford Kevin White, West Virginia DeVante Parker, Louisville Jaelen Strong, Arizona State Josh Harper, Fresno State Breshad Perriman, Central Florida Devin Smith, Ohio State Rashad Greene, Florida State TE Devin Funchess, Michigan Maxx Williams, Minnesota OT Cedric Ogbuehi, Texas A&M Brandon Schwerff, Iowa Andrus Peat, Stanford La'el Collins, LSU Spencer Drango, Baylor Ereck Flowers, Miami Cameron Erving, Florida State T.J. Clemmings, Pittsburgh Ronnie Stanley, Notre Dame Ty Sambrailo, Colorado State Jake Fisher, Oregon OG La'el Collins, LSU A.J. McCann, South Carolina Cameron Erving, Florida State Ty Sambrailo, Colorado State Josue Matias, Florida State Laken Tomlinson, Duke C Cameron Erving, Florida State Reese Dismukes, Auburn NT Danny Shelton, Washington Eddie Goldman, Florida State Malcom Brown, Texas Jordan Phillips, Oklahoma 4-3 DT and/or 3-4 DE Leonard Williams, USC Michael Bennett, Ohio State Mario Edwards, Jr., Florida State Malcom Brown, Texas Arik Armstead, Oregon Carl Davis, Iowa 4-3 DE Randy Gregory, Nebraska Shilique Calhoun, Michigan State Dante Fowler, Jr., Florida Shawn Oakman, Baylor Bronson Kaufusi, BYU Alvin Dupree, Kentucky Nate Orchard, Utah Owamagbe Odighizuwa, UCLA Danielle Hunter, LSU 3-4 OLB Randy Gregory, Nebraska Vic Beasley, Clemson Dante Fowler, Jr., Florida Shayne Ray, Missouri Bronson Kaufusi, BYU Lorenzo Maudlin, Louisville Alvin Dupree, Kentucky Nate Orchard, Utah Hau'oli Kikaha, Washington Eli Harold, Virginia Danielle Hunter, LSU 4-3 OLB/WILB Vic Beasley, Clemson Shaq Thompson, Washington Paul Dawson, TCU MLB/SILB Bernardrick McKinney, Mississippi State Denzel Perryman, Miami Eric Kendricks, UCLA CB Ifo Ekpre-Olomo, Oregon P.J. Williams, Florida State Marcus Peters, Washington Trae Waynes, Michigan State Jalen Collins, LSU Alex Carter, Stanford Quentin Rollins, Miami (OH) Kevin Johnson, Wake Forest SS Landon Collins, Alabama Anthony Harris, Virginia FS Gerod Holliman, Louisville K P Last edited by Direckshun; 03-04-2015 at 08:24 PM..
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11-20-2014, 10:57 PM	#261
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $-1230000	Trade it all to move up to #1 for Mariota....
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11-20-2014, 10:57 PM	#262
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1580389	Scratch that. CB is by far #1 need hands down __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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11-20-2014, 11:39 PM	#263
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $-1230000	I like QB Shane Carden out of ECU around round 4 or 5. Need to continue put some pressure on Smith. Carden needs to learn the pro style system, but he reads from the spread well and has a good arm. Isn't scared to put the ball in some tight spots to his receivers.
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11-21-2014, 01:23 PM	#267
dls6501 Veteran Join Date: Jan 2014 Casino cash: $9940375	I think our biggest needs are OL, ILB, CB. I dont follow college football enough to have an opinion on specific players, but these are the positions I would focus on.
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11-24-2014, 01:38 PM	#270
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1580389	We absolutely need another quality 3-4 DE. Losing DeVito put us way behind. While it's nice that Jaye Howard stepped up, we basically only have Vickerson and Walker to help, but we need Walker to spell Poe bc he's playing too much as it is. 3-4 DE will be a big need this offseason. __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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