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Old 12-13-2014, 01:23 PM   #151
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To the victor go the spoils. When Lil' Chiefy can offer the NFL something besides John Gruden yapping his jaws about parking lot BBQ, then they may receive the blessings.





Yes, because Chiefs football is life. You are such a maroon. Your pain; I find it pleasing. This has been a long time coming.
I don't disagree, but I think it's deeper than that. It's one thing to have the league shit on you, but since 1969 "circumstances" have resulted in no SB play for the Chiefs. At this point I think there's something going on between the league and the Chiefs organization, and specifically the Hunt family.

I'll say again, I think the league might prefer that the sell the team so a more competent group can be in ultimate command. While Clark has added some focus to the team let's face it, this isn't a big part of his life, nor his passion. He does just enough to get a few lawyers to agree that, technically, he's doing something more than nothing to turn the club around (but not as much as anybody with some passion would do, but that doesn't matter). And Clark knows he doesn't even have to do that to clear those many millions of free money, he seems to do it just to save a little face.

Much like term limits and seniority for committee chairmanships would help fix our congress, a test to be a parent would help the planet, so too would some form of post-season success, over some period of time, be required for an owner to not have to sell. At a minimum your team should be required to win a post-season game every 7 years (two rebuilding cycles IN A SALARY CAP SPORT) for the owner to not be forced to sell after being given the opportunity to buy his own team at the current market price (giving any proceeds to NFL charities). Something to force owners to care enough to demand their subordinates to piece together success.

The problem in all of that, like congress doing the right things, you can't get them to vote themselves a harder life, or to refuse a pay raise!
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Old 12-13-2014, 01:30 PM   #152
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I don't disagree, but I think it's deeper than that. It's one thing to have the league shit on you, but since 1969 "circumstances" have resulted in no SB play for the Chiefs. At this point I think there's something going on between the league and the Chiefs organization, and specifically the Hunt family.

I'll say again, I think the league might prefer that the sell the team so a more competent group can be in ultimate command. While Clark has added some focus to the team let's face it, this isn't a big part of his life, nor his passion. He does just enough to get a few lawyers to agree that, technically, he's doing something more than nothing to turn the club around (but not as much as anybody with some passion would do, but that doesn't matter). And Clark knows he doesn't even have to do that to clear those many millions of free money, he seems to do it just to save a little face.

Much like term limits and seniority for committee chairmanships would help fix our congress, a test to be a parent would help the planet, so too would some form of post-season success, over some period of time, be required for an owner to not have to sell. At a minimum your team should be required to win a post-season game every 7 years (two rebuilding cycles IN A SALARY CAP SPORT) for the owner to not be forced to sell after being given the opportunity to buy his own team at the current market price (giving any proceeds to NFL charities). Something to force owners to care enough to demand their subordinates to piece together success.

The problem in all of that, like congress doing the right things, you can't get them to vote themselves a harder life, or to refuse a pay raise!
Go look at how many teams haven't won a playoff game in any 7 year span since the salary cap was instituted, and then you'll realize how stupid your idea is.
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Old 12-13-2014, 01:33 PM   #153
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This is easily understood by considering the value of the 2 QBs involved.
That's exactly why the league sucks balls right now. Guys like Peyton have been pampered their whole life. Which is why he cries like a girl any time Denver is flagged.
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Roughing the passer is roughing the passer.
Too bad Hali's call wasn't. And any ****ing moron in the league office should be able to see that on the replay.
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Too bad Hali's call wasn't. And any ****ing moron in the league office should be able to see that on the replay.
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HITTING PASSER’S KNEE
(5) A rushing defender is prohibited from forcibly hitting in the knee area or below a passer who has one or both feet on the ground, even if the initial contact is above the knee. It is not a foul if the defender is blocked (or fouled) into the passer and has no opportunity to avoid him;
Note 1: A defender cannot initiate a roll or lunge and forcibly hit the passer in the knee area or below, even if he is being contacted by another player.
Given the rule (quoted for you), how can you say it isn't Roughing the Passer?
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Old 12-13-2014, 01:43 PM   #156
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You're very passionate and loyal. Those are admirable qualities when they're focused on things that matter.

The wealthy family that owns the factory that manufactures the product to which you've chosen to devote yourself thanks you.

Take a deep breath every once in a while, my friend.
I breath well, I just call-out the Hunt family and hold few punches because "they provide us a team." I know I'm not heard by anybody who matters, but I hope one day I might be. That being said, I'm pretty sure they can't resist reading and listening to what's being said about them. They may laugh (all the way to the bank) but I have a feeling they know they're continually being called-out as corporate whores and failures as owners when it comes to on-field success. I feel bad that the younger Hunts are prolly the first to read it, but that's up to the Hunts to help them understand. sooner or later one of their kids is going to ask them why their team hasn't done anything since 1969. That might be the day the kids will be introduced to little white lies, deception, and watching mommy and daddy change the conversation and have them focus on anything but the teams football success. I can hear it now:
"Yes little Clarkie, those players have not brought home a SB trophies for you to play with, but we've given some cans of soup to some hungry people, and we have a super nice house-sized apartment inside of Arrowhead for you to play in. And little Clarkie, we clear something like $60,000,000 - heck I don't even know how much - and don't have to do anything to get it. NOTHING. And the hot lady who you call mommy, well she's prolly here because of all this! So don't you believe those mean people when they say we suck at owning, we're RICH, and that's all that matters in life - money and hot chicks... And one day little Clarkie, this will all be yours, with, or without a playoff win."
They truly are a crap family, even if they look pretty, have some charities, and talk nice. In the end, from Clark, to his wife, to his kids and their aunts and uncles, that family can't produce a successful football product. And their public silence is what makes them all business whores. For some money, they let themselves get ****ed.
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Old 12-13-2014, 01:51 PM   #157
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Go look at how many teams haven't won a playoff game in any 7 year span since the salary cap was instituted, and then you'll realize how stupid your idea is.
Well make it 10 then! All I know is 45 is too much, and you're not offering anything substantive to force owners to drive their teams to success. Evidently team and family pride aren't enough.

As for you calling it stupid, what's stupid is the part you missed where I said they could keep the team as they'd be the first afforded to buy it at market price. After that they can take their chances of bidding for the team if the team isn't worth the market price, or they think they can out-bid other bidders and that would be under the listed market price.

So why don't you piss off until you come up with something more than being a Hunt dick sucker and having no better ideas to suggest.

Or might you be saying 45 years is about right?
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I breath well, I just call-out the Hunt family and hold few punches because "they provide us a team." I know I'm not heard by anybody who matters, but I hope one day I might be. That being said, I'm pretty sure they can't resist reading and listening to what's being said about them. They may laugh (all the way to the bank) but I have a feeling they know they're continually being called-out as corporate whores and failures as owners when it comes to on-field success. I feel bad that the younger Hunts are prolly the first to read it, but that's up to the Hunts to help them understand. sooner or later one of their kids is going to ask them why their team hasn't done anything since 1969. That might be the day the kids will be introduced to little white lies, deception, and watching mommy and daddy change the conversation and have them focus on anything but the teams football success. I can hear it now:
"Yes little Clarkie, those players have not brought home a SB trophies for you to play with, but we've given some cans of soup to some hungry people, and we have a super nice house-sized apartment inside of Arrowhead for you to play in. And little Clarkie, we clear something like $60,000,000 - heck I don't even know how much - and don't have to do anything to get it. NOTHING. And the hot lady who you call mommy, well she's prolly here because of all this! So don't you believe those mean people when they say we suck at owning, we're RICH, and that's all that matters in life - money and hot chicks... And one day little Clarkie, this will all be yours, with, or without a playoff win."
They truly are a crap family, even if they look pretty, have some charities, and talk nice. In the end, from Clark, to his wife, to his kids and their aunts and uncles, that family can't produce a successful football product. And their public silence is what makes them all business whores. For some money, they let themselves get ****ed.

Have you considered perhaps adopting a dog from a shelter?
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Yes. A long time ago. Best dog for miles around too. Everybody wants to know how to get their dogs to be as awesome. I think it boils down to her having an owner who cares. Unlike the Chiefs!!!!!!

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Yes. A long time ago. Best dog for miles around too. Everybody wants to know how to get their dogs to be as awesome. I think it boils down to her having an owner who cares. Unlike the Chiefs!!!!!!

Now that's passion and loyalty well spent. And those things will be returned to you even more abundantly. Well done, sir.
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Now that's passion and loyalty well spent. And those things will be returned to you even more abundantly. Well done, sir.
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Come on guys, you all know that what Hali did has been a foul ever since Bernard Pollard got Brady below the knees costing Brady the remainder of that season.
It is most definitely a foul. Yes there should have been a holding call, but that does not change the fact that what Hali did was a foul.
If you watch that video you will see Hali lunge at Stanton using his feet and ankles after he had cleared the LT and was about a foot off of the ground. Hali should have fell to the ground and gotten up and then proceeded with the pass rush. I know it would have been over by then but that is not the point it is what Hali should/could have done in that position.
Yes I believe Von Miller should have been fined if not more for his hit on Smith. That is and has to be treated as a separate issue.

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Well make it 10 then! All I know is 45 is too much, and you're not offering anything substantive to force owners to drive their teams to success. Evidently team and family pride aren't enough.

As for you calling it stupid, what's stupid is the part you missed where I said they could keep the team as they'd be the first afforded to buy it at market price. After that they can take their chances of bidding for the team if the team isn't worth the market price, or they think they can out-bid other bidders and that would be under the listed market price.

So why don't you piss off until you come up with something more than being a Hunt dick sucker and having no better ideas to suggest.

Or might you be saying 45 years is about right?
All you have for your "the Hunts don't care" argument is their failure to find a franchise QB in the draft. Since Clark has taken over, they've went out and spent the money to acquire highly sought after coaches and GMs. They've given large contracts to their star players.

Your posts sound like they were written by a teenage girl who didn't get what they wanted for their birthday. Try not to sprain your ankle while you're stomping your feet and throwing a tantrum.
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All you have for your "the Hunts don't care" argument is their failure to find a franchise QB in the draft. Since Clark has taken over, they've went out and spent the money to acquire highly sought after coaches and GMs. They've given large contracts to their star players.

Your posts sound like they were written by a teenage girl who didn't get what they wanted for their birthday. Try not to sprain your ankle while you're stomping your feet and throwing a tantrum.
And your choking on the head Hunt's dick again. My ankles are fine, but you seem to dismiss everything the Hunt family (and it is a family business when he needs to shield himself from certain complaints) has failed to do because one died and another took over. That's some weak shit pal, very weak. It's not like the first time Clark saw the Chiefs was after the reading of the will, so please stop acting like it. He may be able to say he wasn't in total control before then, and 9 out of 10 lawyers would say that's accurate because he included the word "total", but we know that's where the excuses start for the Hunt family of corporate whores.

But evidently you're OK with one family being in charge and their cumulative success is nothing in 45 years, you're their perfect fan/victim (and they love you for it).

But I must ask this, with this group of players, coaches, and GM, when you you see the Chiefs winning a playoff game, and when do you see them playing for a SB birth?
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