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Old 12-17-2014, 11:46 AM  
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Those that have said Cutler is better than Alex Smith.
Cutler now has more INTs this season than Alex has in the last two seasons combined. Cutler has Alshon Jefferey, Brandon Marshall, and Matt Forte.
Cutler has a huge arm but the rest is just shit.
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Old 12-17-2014, 04:11 PM   #31
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Old 12-17-2014, 04:12 PM   #32
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Alex 24+: 3-36-1

Cutler 24+: 14-38
A pretty loss and an ugly loss is still a loss.

Are you honestly saying that you'd swap Cutler for Smith right now if you could?
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Old 12-17-2014, 04:12 PM   #33
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Alex 24+: 3-36-1

Cutler 24+: 14-38
how many years on crappy teams each?

Who has the better overall record in the past 4 years?
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Old 12-17-2014, 04:16 PM   #34
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He is throwing more INTs with better weapons than most of the others that are up there with him. He has a better OL than a lot of teams as well.
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Old 12-17-2014, 04:18 PM   #35
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Cutler is getting worse as the offense has gotten more talented around him.
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Old 12-17-2014, 04:33 PM   #36
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I wouldn't underestimate the difference in either overall pass attempts or downfield pass attempts when it comes to analyzing Smith's interception numbers compared to Cutler. As of last week (splits haven't been updated on espn's site yet, and Cutler did have a poor game, so they'll shift some...) Smith had more than 100 fewer attempts, as well as half the attempts of Cutler with regards to passes traveling 11+ yards in the air. With those passes, the statistical difference for interception rate between the two was just 1% as of a week ago, which was a bit of a surprise to me. Double Smith's attempts in that range, at his current pick rate, and he has 4-5 more interceptions in the 11+ yard range, meaning 9-10 versus Cutler's 11.

I don't know Cutler's stats in that sense for Monday's game, but basically, Smith's pick numbers would likely be higher if he a) threw 100 more passes, and b) attempted more passes beyond 10 yards. Something which I think most of us actively want him to do, knowing full well that it will occasionally lead to a turnover.
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Old 12-17-2014, 04:37 PM   #37
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Old 12-17-2014, 04:38 PM   #38
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Old 12-17-2014, 04:39 PM   #39
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I wouldn't underestimate the difference in either overall pass attempts or downfield pass attempts when it comes to analyzing Smith's interception numbers compared to Cutler. As of last week (splits haven't been updated on espn's site yet, and Cutler did have a poor game, so they'll shift some...) Smith had more than 100 fewer attempts, as well as half the attempts of Cutler with regards to passes traveling 11+ yards in the air. With those passes, the statistical difference for interception rate between the two was just 1% as of a week ago, which was a bit of a surprise to me. Double Smith's attempts in that range, at his current pick rate, and he has 4-5 more interceptions in the 11+ yard range, meaning 9-10 versus Cutler's 11.

I don't know Cutler's stats in that sense for Monday's game, but basically, Smith's pick numbers would likely be higher if he a) threw 100 more passes, and b) attempted more passes beyond 10 yards. Something which I think most of us actively want him to do, knowing full well that it will occasionally lead to a turnover.
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Tebow has a better record than Cutler while in Denver.
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Old 12-17-2014, 04:48 PM   #41
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Yeah, I don't know just how amazing the Saints defense is; but Chicago's line looked very Chiefs-esque.
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Old 12-17-2014, 05:03 PM   #42
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**** both of them. But if you don't think that Cutler's league leading turnovers aren't hurting his defense, then you are reeruned.
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Yeah, I don't know just how amazing the Saints defense is; but Chicago's line looked very Chiefs-esque.
Thats all true, but its not because of a lack of effort on the Bears behalf, the stories about their revamped unit and how proud they were of it were all over the webs in camp/preseason.

IMO, a lot of that offenses troubles boils down to a lack of confidence in their QB... maybe almost like my Army days, our captain up there in Alaska was hardcore, Ranger and the whole bit, very serious and squared away.

And guess what? that unit rocked, great morale, kicked ass in the field etc.

Then I go to Ft. Campbell where the CO was thoroughly average, not a West Pointer... and we sucked during our field exercises (war games), the individual talent we definitely had couldnt make up for the shit decisions coming down from the top.

Trestman is a shitty colonel, but Cutler is an even shittier Commanding Officer... so yeah, Cutler sucks, no winning attitude present in him even to the layman observer.
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