538 Calls Tom Brady the 43rd Clutchest Postseason QB

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

You've gone full Hootie on this. You seriously want to argue that any of his teams (excluding Brady) were the MOST talented teams in NFL history?

You're frothing at the mouth, and getting stupider. You need to stop.

That's not at all what I'm arguing.

It's quite simple.

A replacement level QB + 52 Patriots in 26 postseason games (they excluded the Bledsoe game) would have won 12.6 games and lost 13.4 games.

A replacement level QB + 52 Colts or 52 Broncos in 24 postseason games would have won 8 games and lost 16.

In conclusion, Tom Brady CLEARLY played on better teams than Peyton Manning where CLEARLY he didn't have to shoulder as much of the load to ensure a playoff victory.

"Well, I sucked pretty bad today, but our defense saved us," Brady said after throwing for 239 yards, with two interceptions and, for the first time in 36 games, no TD passes. "I'm going to try to go out and do a better job in a couple of weeks, but I'm proud of this team, my teammates."

That's Tom Brady after winning the AFC Championship Game against Baltimore in the Lee Evans / Billy Cundiff game.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

In conclusion, Tom Brady CLEARLY played on better teams than Peyton Manning where CLEARLY he didn't have to shoulder as much of the load to ensure a playoff victory.\

That's Tom Brady after winning the AFC Championship Game against Baltimore in the Lee Evans / Billy Cundiff game.

Do you happen to have any quotes handy for the game the Colts won against the Ravens in 2006 when Manning went 15 for 30 for 170 yards, with zero TDs and two interceptions, on the way to winning the Super Bowl?

Because if he didn't say he sucked, and that he's happy his teammates bailed him out, then he wasn't very honest.

When he had three picks against only one touchdown against the Chiefs in the 2006 playoffs, and yet his team won? Did he mention his suckitude and tahnk his teammates for that?

How about when he was 14 for 31 with two picks and zero TDs against the Jets in the playoffs in 2002? They lost that one 41-0 against Herm Edwards and Chad Pennington. Did he admit how much he sucked in that one?

When he was 23 for 47 with FOUR picks against the Patriots in the 2003 playoffs? Did he say how much he sucked?

You're endlessly stupid. It's seriously old.

[RobBlake]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

Do you happen to have any quotes handy for the game the Colts won against the Ravens in 2006 when Manning went 15 for 30 for 170 yards, with zero TDs and two interceptions, on the way to winning the Super Bowl?

Because if he didn't say he sucked, and that he's happy his teammates bailed him out, then he wasn't very honest.

When he had three picks against only one touchdown against the Chiefs in the 2006 playoffs, and yet his team won? Did he mention his suckitude and tahnk his teammates for that?

How about when he was 14 for 31 with two picks and zero TDs against the Jets in the playoffs in 2002? They lost that one 41-0 against Herm Edwards and Chad Pennington. Did he admit how much he sucked in that one?

When he was 23 for 47 with FOUR picks against the Patriots in the 2003 playoffs? Did he say how much he sucked?

You're endlessly stupid. It's seriously old.

or how he had 70 yards of offense in the first half of this past game?

Or how he was completely blown out vs SEA.

Or how he won the SB vs a Rex Grossman led team.

Or how he choked vs the Saints.

I highly doubt Peyton on the patriots vs Ravens would have came back twice from 14 pt deficits

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by RobBlake

or how he had 70 yards of offense in the first half of this past game?

Or how he was completely blown out vs SEA.

Or how he won the SB vs a Rex Grossman led team.

Or how he choked vs the Saints.

I highly doubt Peyton on the patriots vs Ravens would have came back twice from 14 pt deficits

Not this year, certainly, but it's not really fair to hold this year against him. He was god-awful the second half of the year, and Father Time has seemingly caught up to him in a big way.

He couldnt' do diddily against a not-great Colts defense.

[RobBlake]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

Not this year, certainly, but it's not really fair to hold this year against him. He was god-awful the second half of the year, and Father Time has seemingly caught up to him in a big way.

He couldnt' do diddily against a not-great Colts defense.

I agree. Let us also take into consideration of longevity.. brady still looks like he can go another 3-4 years

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by RobBlake

I agree. Let us also take into consideration of longevity.. brady still looks like he can go another 3-4 years

Yeah. It's interesting, actually. Manning is only about 18 months older than Brady, but because he came into the league younger and started earlier, he has played WAAY more games. 256 to Brady's 209. That 47 game difference is just one shy of three full years.

It will be interesting to see how much longer both of them play. If the second half of the season si where Manning is now, physically, then he ought to retire. Brady, meanwhile, doesn't look all that bad for his advanced years. There was a LONG article on his unusual workout routine designed in part to extend his career.

Fitness nuts might find it interesting.

http://www.si.com/nfl/2014/12/10/tom...ts-age-fitness