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Old 01-20-2015, 10:38 PM  
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Pats Cheating Comfirmed
According to the report, the league sources say the NFL determined 11 of the 12 footballs used by the Patriots were under-inflated by two pounds per square inch each. Per NFL rules, footballs are required to be inflated between 12.5 and 13.5 PSI and weigh between 14 and 15 ounces.

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Old 01-21-2015, 09:03 PM   #496
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Better idea… the Patriots should be forced to go through an entire NFL calendar year with the version of the "Patriots Way" they tried to export to KC.

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Damn, that's pretty harsh. They doctored the balls, they didn't commit mass murder.
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Old 01-21-2015, 09:04 PM   #497
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So let's say you remove 10 NE points from the first half due to the advantage. Then it's a whole new, and different ballgame right?
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Old 01-21-2015, 09:05 PM   #498
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I'm refuting those who say it had no bearing on the game. If the balls were legal, perhaps the score is a lot closer going into the 3rd. It's a totally different game then. Different play-calling for one.
Good Christ. Brady had a whopping 220 yards passing. They ran the ball 40 times.

Indy had 3 turnovers and only 200 yards of offense.
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Old 01-21-2015, 09:09 PM   #499
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Good Christ. Brady had a whopping 220 yards passing. They ran the ball 40 times.

Indy had 3 turnovers and only 200 yards of offense.
Because he didn't have to pass anymore. He got his lead by cheating then coasted. Forced Indy to play from behind, illegally.

Soft ball favors the RB as well. Bigger runs with less risk of fumble. That sucker was nice and snug.

Quit supporting cheating. It's dumb.
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Old 01-21-2015, 09:17 PM   #500
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Old 01-21-2015, 09:27 PM   #501
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Good Christ. Brady had a whopping 220 yards passing. They ran the ball 40 times.

Indy had 3 turnovers and only 200 yards of offense.
I wonder how much more offense Indy would've had if luck could get a better grip, and accuracy on deflated balls.
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Old 01-21-2015, 09:30 PM   #502
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I wonder how much more offense Indy would've had if luck could get a better grip, and accuracy on deflated balls.
Luck had the second most turnovers in the league before that game.

I'm guessing he still would have coughed it up...
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Old 01-21-2015, 09:32 PM   #503
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I wonder how much more offense Indy would've had if luck could get a better grip, and accuracy on deflated balls.
NE D played well.

He looked good in Denver. Outplayed Peyton.

Maybe Denver should question the balls the Colts used...
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Old 01-21-2015, 09:41 PM   #504
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I'm refuting those who say it had no bearing on the game. If the balls were legal, perhaps the score is a lot closer going into the 3rd. It's a totally different game then. Different play-calling for one.
eDave:

Agreed. It has nothing to do with the score. I have been a member at CP a long time. Therefore, I have been in plenty of Chiefs' game threads. If an opponent were accused of cheating, this place would explode – and rightfully so.

The spirit of competition dictates a level playing field. If a team is found breaking league rules and tampering with equipment, they should be punished vigorously.

This has been a horrible year for the NFL. The officiating has been terrible this season and for years, it is ignored. As soon as a sport loses its integrity, public interest will decline.
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Actually, the most stupid thing is the number of people who don't understand what the real issue is. The real issue is not whether 11 deflated footballs made a difference in a 45-7 blowout. They didn't. The real issue here is the blatant and repetitive cheating of the Patriot organization, even after the Spygate situation. Belichick has shown that he doesn't give a damn what the rules are and that he has no respect for the game, his opponents, or for the fans who ultimately pay for this billion dollar industry.

The Patriots lost a first round draft choice over Spygate. They will lose one over this, and they will be fined heavily. If Goodell has any balls at all (which I doubt), he'll put the Patriots on probation and threaten them with a college-like postseason ban for a year or two if they get caught blatantly and deliberately breaking the rules again. Belicheat has permanently tarnished his image in the same manner that Barry Bonds tarnished his. Unlike Bonds, he'll go into the Hall of Fame, but people will remember Spygate and Deflategate forever.
If it cost the Chiefs a first round draft pick and say a million dollar fine to go to the Superbowl, I think most all the fanbase would take that penalty to be honest.
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If it cost the Chiefs a first round draft pick and say a million dollar fine to go to the Superbowl, I think most all the fanbase would take that penalty to be honest.
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I wonder how much more offense Indy would've had if luck could get a better grip, and accuracy on deflated balls.
That is if he prefers a deflated ball 'cause he may like his inflated more or the same as they're supposed to be.
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If it cost the Chiefs a first round draft pick and say a million dollar fine to go to the Superbowl, I think most all the fanbase would take that penalty to be honest.
Of course they would. That's why an NCAA-like probation with a possible postseason ban is the only thing that would get anyone to take it seriously.
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How much money changes hands betting on NFL games?

When cheating becomes more common and ruins the spirit of the game, it is off to the races.

I am beginning to wonder about match fixing.


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