Browns are signing WR Dwayne Bowe

[ViperVisor]

Things happen for reasons. You are stretching with your deductive nonsense that they somehow don't care the guys most suited for yards don't get them when they need to get yards.

Reid had great defenses with Jim Johnson for years.
Alex Smith has had great defenses for years.
They've had great RBs to use.

This funnels the game-plan to a type they are fond of to begin with. Ball control and runs/short passes.

McNabb only had 2 seasons with a lot of passes. 2nd year was meh. 2008 was a year Philly got to 4000 yards.

It was an ultra-Reid type year. Desean was the shot guy mostly and got 900.
The craziness is...
Hank Baskett
Brian Westbrook
Kevin Curtis
Jason Avant
Avg. of 400 yards each

Correll Buckhalter
Brent Celek
L.J. Smith
Reggie Brown
Greg Lewis
Avg. of 300 yards each


But when things didn't go well. Worse defense, 2 strong WRs.
2010...
Desean 1000 yards
Maclin 900

2011...
Both were 1000 if they played 16 games

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by ViperVisor

Things happen for reasons. You are stretching with your deductive nonsense that they somehow don't care the guys most suited for yards don't get them when they need to get yards.

So, you disagree with what I posted because "reasons". Ooookay.

Originally Posted by ViperVisor

Reid had great defenses with Jim Johnson for years.
Alex Smith has had great defenses for years.
They've had great RBs to use.

This funnels the game-plan to a type they are fond of to begin with. Ball control and runs/short passes.

Notice how it didn't work for Philly due to their playoff record, where in the Eagles' best season since their SB run they got bounced in the NFC title game by a Cards team that had downfield passing capability with Warner / Fitzgerald / Breaston et all and how it really hasn't worked for KC in Reid's two seasons here.

Also, note Reid's performance since Johnson died.

Spoiler!

It's mediocre.

Originally Posted by ViperVisor

McNabb only had 2 seasons with a lot of passes. 2nd year was meh. 2008 was a year Philly got to 4000 yards.

It was an ultra-Reid type year. Desean was the shot guy mostly and got 900.
The craziness is...
Hank Baskett
Brian Westbrook
Kevin Curtis
Jason Avant
Avg. of 400 yards each

Correll Buckhalter
Brent Celek
L.J. Smith
Reggie Brown
Greg Lewis
Avg. of 300 yards each

See above.

Originally Posted by ViperVisor

But when things didn't go well. Worse defense, 2 strong WRs.
2010...
Desean 1000 yards
Maclin 900

2011...
Both were 1000 if they played 16 games

Here's the fun part: you are admitting Maclin isn't going to get 1,000 yards unless the defense sucks and the Chiefs are forced to pass due to playing from behind or because he doesn't have DeSean Jackson playing alongside him.


... unfortunately for you, this pretty much jives with the data I've posted about in brief earlier in this thread.

Now, do the Chiefs have someone with Jackson's skillset at WR? Not at the moment. Wilson might be that guy one day, but it's incredibly wishful thinking that Albert Wilson as a second year UDFA out of a school that wasn't even Division I until last season is going to come close to putting up the stats Jackson did in his second year. Again, Wilson could very well be that guy someday but it's incredibly unlikely he'll surpass the bar set by other great UDFAs such as Wayne Chrebet, Rod Smith and Wes Welker.

Jason Avant isn't going to fool anyone into thinking he has DeSean Jackson-esque capabilities and Da'Rick Rogers (another UDFA) is a complete unknown outside of one game where he flashed great numbers against a good regular season team in Cincinnati but also is a poster boy for "character issues."

So unless the Chiefs draft a receiver with DeSean Jackson upside or hit the figurative lottery signing an extremely gifted UDFA pass catcher, it's defensible and logical to assume that Jeremy Maclin will -in fact- not get 1,000 yards based on Reid's track record with receivers (four 1,000+ yard guys in 16 seasons), Alex Smith's track record in connecting with receivers enough times or for enough yards at a time to get enough chances at 1,000 yards and because of Maclin's personal history along with the notion that Maclin can only get close to 1,000 yards *if* he's being thrown to nearly a hundred times *or* because he has a receiver of DeSean Jackson's caliber on the field with him.