Chiefs Knile Davis: No gap between Jamaal Charles and me - Page 2

ThaVirus · 06-10-2015, 12:54 PM

Knile Davis: No 'gap' between Jamaal Charles and me

By Marc Sessler

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Chiefs back Knile Davis does not lack for confidence.

The third-year runner swatted down the idea that Kansas City can't afford to rest Jamaal Charles come September, saying that he is every bit the equal of the All-Pro back.

"I don't feel like there's a gap," Davis said this week, per ESPN.com's Adam Teicher.

There certainly is a gap -- statistically, a vast one -- but who can fault Davis for showing confidence? Besides, he's rarely been given a chance at the lead role, starting just a pair of games over his first two NFL seasons. His 3.5 yards per tote off 204 attempts, though, is a far cry from the 5.5 yards per rush that Charles has churned out over seven outstanding seasons.

"He's the starter. It's his time. I'm waiting (until) my time," Davis said, adding that he doesn't doubt that Charles can fulfill his goal of playing another six years.

If that's the plan in K.C., Davis will need to earn a starting gig elsewhere to show off what he can do. As of today, we're comfortable calling him the clear-cut second option for a Chiefs outfit that plans to run the ball a ton this season.

BWillie · 06-10-2015, 01:14 PM

Ok, Knile "3.5 YPC" Davis.

**DaneMcCloud** · 06-10-2015, 01:17 PM

Davis is a very nice #2 RB and has been very effective at times.

But at this point, it's difficult to envision him as a 16 game starter, in KC or elsewhere.

Deberg_1990 · 06-10-2015, 01:18 PM

If Kniles started a full 16 games it's likely he would end up with more yards than Charles. He's bigger and has a more durable frame.

He would likely get more carries per game than Charles.

Otter · 06-10-2015, 01:23 PM

Damn fine RB and is probably only going to get better but Jamal Charles leaves some pretty big shoes to fill. I salute the confidence and attitude however.

**BossChief** · 06-10-2015, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Davis is a very nice #2 RB and has been very effective at times.

But at this point, it's difficult to envision him as a 16 game starter, in KC or elsewhere.

If Charles goes down this year, Davis will shine.

The kid has game breaking ability.

BWillie · 06-10-2015, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

If Charles goes down this year, Davis will shine.

The kid has game breaking ability.

Why does he average 3.5 yards per carry then? He also has the advantage of being the change of speed back to Jamaal. If he gets full time duties that number would likely even decrease.

**BossChief** · 06-10-2015, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hydrae

The author does realize that Andy is still the coach here, right?

Read into Jamaal Charles and what he said about last year.

He called last year his most frustrating of his career due to injuries. Says that Andy wanted to give him the ball more but that he kept getting hurt.

I expects a run pass mix similar to 2013.

Mr. Laz · 06-10-2015, 01:29 PM

unless he learns to be shiftier in the hole he's not even a starter-level player yet.

now maybe if he gets a full-time gig then he can relax and do better ... not yet though

**DaneMcCloud** · 06-10-2015, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

If Charles goes down this year, Davis will shine.

The kid has game breaking ability.

I think he has speed but his vision hasn't been that of a Plus running back and he's had trouble holding on to the ball.

Maybe he makes a huge leap this season but I haven't seen anything yet that makes me believe he can be anything other than a backup or a rotational guy in a RBBC.

His leg was broken in his most important game, so as to durability, I think there's some question as to whether or not he can handle a full load of 16+ games.

**BossChief** · 06-10-2015, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

Why does he average 3.5 yards per carry then? He also has the advantage of being the change of speed back to Jamaal. If he gets full time duties that number would likely even decrease.

The coaches were predictable in most of the situations Davis got on the field and the OL talent to run the a and b gaps in the power runs they called for him hurt the unpredictability of the playcall. If he was the every down back, he would get a wider array of playcalls for him.

Kids got immense talent.

Mr. Laz · 06-10-2015, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

Why does he average 3.5 yards per carry then? He also has the advantage of being the change of speed back to Jamaal. If he gets full time duties that number would likely even decrease.

Sometimes RB's will try too hard when they know they only have a few carries to impress. Once they get the starting job they relax and are more productive.

I don't know if that is Knile Davis or not, just could be a reason.

**Bob Dole** · 06-10-2015, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

Ok, Knile "3.5 YPC" Davis.

You can probably find some way to blame Alex for that.

**BossChief** · 06-10-2015, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think he has speed but his vision hasn't been that of a Plus running back and he's had trouble holding on to the ball.

Maybe he makes a huge leap this season but I haven't seen anything yet that makes me believe he can be anything other than a backup or a rotational guy in a RBBC.

His leg was broken in his most important game, so as to durability, I think there's some question as to whether or not he can handle a full load of 16+ games.

No doubt he needs to do a better job of holding onto the ball to earn more opportunities. IMO that's what's held him back.

All running backs get injured.

**DaneMcCloud** · 06-10-2015, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

All running backs get injured.

Sure but I think it's a little too early to discuss his durability when in limited duty, he's suffered a broken leg. I'm not stating that it's systemic or an injury bug, but it did happen and it did negatively affect that outcome of that particular game.

Hopefully, it was a freak injury and nothing more.

ToxSocks · 06-10-2015, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Davis is a very nice #2 RB and has been very effective at times.

But at this point, it's difficult to envision him as a 16 game starter, in KC or elsewhere.

I agree.

His injury history makes me wonder if he can be a 16 game starter. He obviously has the ability, i just question whether he can carry the load for 16 games+.

Also, i'd be more worried if he DIDN'T say there was no gap.

I prefer my football players cocky and confident.

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