Chiefs Andy Reid

staylor26 · 07-02-2015, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

obsession? This is now what....the 3rd time I've said it? And this time was basically calling you out on your stupid comment. The time before that was because you said that you didn't care what Mizzou fans thought of Morse because you watched 6-7 games and paid attention to only him.

Yea I did after we drafted him. If I trust my own eyes why should I care what these same pessimists think if they don't see all the talent the Chiefs have and aren't happy with Dorsey's drafts (despite them being very good IMO)?

Once again I will pose this question to you and maybe I'll finally get an answer. Do you not agree that the majority of this board has opinions on prospects they've never watched? That's ignorance. The second we drafted Morse I was pretty disapointed. Not bc I didn't like him as a prospect, but bc I didn't want a C that early and I was unaware of his stock getting so high by draft day. I'm not an ignorant person and open minded, so instead of freaking out about it I took notice that Mayock had him in his top 5 interior OL rankings went back and watched those games and came away feeling we got a guy not that far off from Erving a round later.

That's the difference between being an ignorant pessimistic moron and an open minded intelligent fan that is aware that the people that do this for a living know more than I do and I should give them the benefit of the doubt or at least see for myself before bitching like a teenage girl.

You try to make me out to be an arrogant armchair GM, but that's where you're wrong. Who's more arrogant? The person that doesn't do their homework on any of these prospects yet still believes they know better than John Dorsey, or the person that does their homework yet still is completely aware that they don't know nearly as much as the guys that do this for a living?

**The Franchise** · 07-02-2015, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Yea I did after we drafted him. If I trust my own eyes why should I care what these same pessimists think if they don't see all the talent the Chiefs have and aren't happy with Dorsey's drafts (despite them being very good IMO)?

Once again I will pose this question to you and maybe I'll finally get an answer. Do you not agree that the majority of this board has opinions on prospects they've never watched? That's ignorance. The second we drafted Morse I was pretty disapointed. Not bc I didn't like him as a prospect, but bc I didn't want a C that early and I was unaware of his stock getting so high by draft day. I'm not an ignorant person and open minded, so instead of freaking out about it I took notice that Mayock had him in his top 5 interior OL rankings went back and watched those games and came away feeling we got a guy not that far off from Erving a round later.

That's the difference between being an ignorant pessimistic moron and an open minded intelligent fan that is aware that the people that do this for a living know more than I do and I should give them the benefit of the doubt or at least see for myself before bitching like a teenage girl.

You try to make me out to be an arrogant armchair GM, but that's where you're wrong. Who's more arrogant? The person that doesn't do their homework on any of these prospects yet still believes they know better than John Dorsey, or the person that does their homework yet still is completely aware that they don't know nearly as much as the guys that do this for a living?

So you've made it your mission to show these "ignorant pessimistic morons" where they're wrong by claiming that you know more than they do?

And you know that ALL of them have these opinions without doing any research? So Hamas, who is a Mizzou fan and watches the games, doesn't know what he's talking about when it comes to Morse? And that's because of what exactly?

You want to put your opinions of players out there.....that's fine. But don't start off with...."Mizzou fans don't know dick about this guy. I watched 6 games and paid attention to only him......so I know more."

staylor26 · 07-02-2015, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

So you've made it your mission to show these "ignorant pessimistic morons" where they're wrong by claiming that you know more than they do?

And you know that ALL of them have these opinions without doing any research? So Hamas, who is a Mizzou fan and watches the games, doesn't know what he's talking about when it comes to Morse? And that's because of what exactly?

You want to put your opinions of players out there.....that's fine. But don't start off with...."Mizzou fans don't know dick about this guy. I watched 6 games and paid attention to only him......so I know more."

I tried to tell these a lot of these same people about Kelce last offseason (before his great preseason), but I was laughed at.

Tried to tell them about Gaines and mentioned I had him in my top 5 CB's, and got ridiculed for that. Still trying to tell them he's going to have a great sophomore season.

This offseason I've been hyping up Murray as our QBOTF, a guy I had pegged as a perfect fit with Reid before last years draft and same thing.

I'm just sick of the lack of perspective and ability to have an open minded conversation about our young talent.

Here's another example. You can't bring Catapano up on this board without being mocked. Why is that? He's got a shit ton of potential (even guys like DeVito on the team see it) and could easily be a great rotational guy on the line for us that comes up with some big sacks. This place shits on any sign of optimism, and it's things like that that make me want to call out the ignorance on this board. Why is that a problem for you?

**The Franchise** · 07-02-2015, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

I tried to tell these a lot of these same people about Kelce last offseason (before his great preseason), but I was laughed at.

Tried to tell them about Gaines and mentioned I had him in my top 5 CB's, and got ridiculed for that. Still trying to tell them he's going to have a great sophomore season.

This offseason I've been hyping up Murray as our QBOTF, a guy I had pegged as a perfect fit with Reid before last years draft and same thing.

I'm just sick of the lack of perspective and ability to have an open minded conversation about our young talent.

Here's another example. You can't bring Catapano up on this board without being mocked. Why is that? He's got a shit ton of potential (even guys like DeVito on the team see it) and could easily be a great rotational guy on the line for us that comes up with some big sacks. This place shits on any sign of optimism, and it's things like that that make me want to call out the ignorance on this board. Why is that a problem for you?

So you've got Kelce to hang your hat on. Congrats....a lot of people were wrong about him.

Shitting on optimism? You know what this board shits on....blind ****ing optimism of EVERY ****ing player that the Chiefs draft. If Catapano was on another team....no one would give a **** who he is. But because he's here (and hasn't done shit)....he's the second coming of Reggie White. He's going to get 20 sacks a season! Reality? The dude hasn't proven shit yet.

staylor26 · 07-02-2015, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

So you've got Kelce to hang your hat on. Congrats....a lot of people were wrong about him.

Shitting on optimism? You know what this board shits on....blind ****ing optimism of EVERY ****ing player that the Chiefs draft. If Catapano was on another team....no one would give a **** who he is. But because he's here (and hasn't done shit)....he's the second coming of Reggie White. He's going to get 20 sacks a season! Reality? The dude hasn't proven shit yet.

And I'll have Gaines too after this season. If you couldn't see that after he shut down Sanders last season then you will after he gets a full season under his belt.

Yea bc saying Catapano has a fairly high ceiling as a pass rusher in this scheme is blind optimism

How are you going to compare saying he's he second coming of Reggie White to me saying he should be a good rotational pass rusher that can get us some big sacks this year?

**The Franchise** · 07-02-2015, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Yea and I'll have Gaines too after this season. If you couldn't see that after he shut down Sanders last season than you will after he gets a full season under his belt.

Yea bc saying Catapano has a fairly high ceiling as a pass rusher in this scheme is blind optimism

How are you going to compare saying he's he second coming of Reggie White to me saying he should be a good rotational pass rusher that can get us some big sacks this year?

Go search for SeeingRed threads and then get back to me.

staylor26 · 07-02-2015, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Go search for SeeingRed threads and then get back to me.

Oh I know what thread you're talking about. Him getting 10 sacks... I completely agree that was taking it wayyyy too far

staylor26 · 05-01-2016, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

So you've made it your mission to show these "ignorant pessimistic morons" where they're wrong by claiming that you know more than they do?

And you know that ALL of them have these opinions without doing any research? So Hamas, who is a Mizzou fan and watches the games, doesn't know what he's talking about when it comes to Morse? And that's because of what exactly?

You want to put your opinions of players out there.....that's fine. But don't start off with...."Mizzou fans don't know dick about this guy. I watched 6 games and paid attention to only him......so I know more."

Thought it would be fun to go back a year.

O.city · 05-01-2016, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Thought it would be fun to go back a year.

You were a solid 1 for 2

staylor26 · 05-01-2016, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

You were a solid 1 for 2

I took my L on Cat a long time ago. All I said was he could develop into a really good situational pass rusher. Who knows maybe he actually does at some point. He was 7th round pick and he's still in the league, so not all is lost.

I was right on Kelce. Gaines too if the ****er could stay healthy.

I'm also going to be right about Chris Jones when he destroys worlds.

NJChiefsFan · 05-01-2016, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

I took my L on Cat a long time ago. All I said was he could develop into a really good situational pass rusher. Who knows maybe he actually does at some point. He was 7th round pick and he's still in the league, so not all is lost.

I was right on Kelce. Gaines too if the ****er could stay healthy.

I'm also going to be right about Chris Jones when he destroys worlds.

When you say "right about Chris Jones" are you implying you are going to be in some minority there or am I just reading that the wrong way? Plenty of people loved the Kelce pick as well. I specifically remember a lot of positive comments about the Gaines pick. Even pre-draft.

Is there a legit reason you are trying to compliment yourself here, like being called out or something? Or are you just patting yourself on the back?

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 07-02-2015, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Didn't you just basically say the same thing telling them a few pages back they should join Pioli in Atlanta?

Due to living in South Florida I haven't been to a Chiefs playoff game once in my life, but I don't miss a game when they come to FL and I've been to Arrowhead for regular season games.

Truth is I couldn't care less how many playoff games these pessimists have been to, the fact that we have a top 5 coach and soon to be recognized as one of the best GM's in the NFL and these idiots can't see nor appreciate it, they don't deserve what's coming IMO.

Any ****ing long time fan of this shit show has deserved it for a long time, you ****ing masochist.