It's been a long time coming. Adiós.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by -King-

But that doesn't matter. Bottom line is that Russell Wilson has won a superbowl in a post season where he averaged 174 yards per game and had 103 yards in the first game.

Alex Smith shits on both of those numbers in the playoffs. He scored 43 points, had 400+ total yards and 3 TDs in our last playoff game without Jamaal Charles or Knile Davis and people still act like we can't win with him. Wtf?

Because for every half of good play, Alex has several games of playing like a chickenshit. That's why people doubt him. The glass is half full people will say "look at the first half against the Colts". The glass is half empty will say "look at the entire Tennessee game or end of the San Fran game." Whether you want to admit it or not, Wilson tends to step up more often than not and make plays when the team needs it. Alex hasn't.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Because for every half of good play, Alex has several games of playing like a chickenshit. That's why people doubt him. The glass is half full people will say "look at the first half against the Colts". The glass is half empty will say "look at the entire Tennessee game or end of the San Fran game." Whether you want to admit it or not, Wilson tends to step up more often than not and make plays when the team needs it. Alex hasn't.

Even if you only get the 2nd half Alex Smith you should STILL win more games than you lose.

And yes, Wilson does step up more often than not. I wish Alex did the same. But at the same time, some of the times Wilson has had to step up was because he had ****ed up earlier in the game. He wouldn't need to make 2 great throws in the 4th quarter and overtime in the NFCCG if he hadn't thrown 4 picks in the game.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by -King-

Even if you only get the 2nd half Alex Smith you should STILL win more games than you lose.

And yes, Wilson does step up more often than not. I wish Alex did the same. But at the same time, some of the times Wilson has had to step up was because he had ****ed up earlier in the game. He wouldn't need to make 2 great throws in the 4th quarter and overtime in the NFCCG if he hadn't thrown 4 picks in the game.

2nd half Alex Smith didn't do much of anything, primarily because Reid shit the bed with his playcalling. But that is beside the point. At some point in the playoffs a QB has to step up for whatever reason - maybe bad play on the QB's part early in the game, maybe the D made a mistake, maybe you are playing Rodgers or somebody else who is going to move the ball - and guys like Wilson have proven they can do it. Alex hasn't.

You can't say with a straight face that when KC gives up a lead that you have confidence they can mount a comeback. I really can't believe more than 50% of this board thinks Wilson is similar to Smith. It's mind boggling to me that people think a 3rd year QB with a Super Bowl win, who put his team in position to win another Super Bowl, and who took the lead 2 years ago with less than a minute left in the playoffs is of the same caliber as a 10 year vet with no accomplishments other than a single playoff victory against the Saints.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

2nd half Alex Smith didn't do much of anything, primarily because Reid shit the bed with his playcalling. But that is beside the point. At some point in the playoffs a QB has to step up for whatever reason - maybe bad play on the QB's part early in the game, maybe the D made a mistake, maybe you are playing Rodgers or somebody else who is going to move the ball - and guys like Wilson have proven they can do it. Alex hasn't.

You can't say with a straight face that when KC gives up a lead that you have confidence they can mount a comeback. I really can't believe more than 50% of this board thinks Wilson is similar to Smith. It's mind boggling to me that people think a 3rd year QB with a Super Bowl win, who put his team in position to win another Super Bowl, and who took the lead 2 years ago with less than a minute left in the playoffs is of the same caliber as a 10 year vet with no accomplishments other than a single playoff victory against the Saints.

Putting up 13 points in a half should win you the vast majority of games. 13 points per half would make you a top 10 offense in the league.

So yeah, 2nd half Alex should have still won the game.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

2nd half Alex Smith didn't do much of anything, primarily because Reid shit the bed with his playcalling. But that is beside the point. At some point in the playoffs a QB has to step up for whatever reason - maybe bad play on the QB's part early in the game, maybe the D made a mistake, maybe you are playing Rodgers or somebody else who is going to move the ball - and guys like Wilson have proven they can do it. Alex hasn't.

You can't say with a straight face that when KC gives up a lead that you have confidence they can mount a comeback. I really can't believe more than 50% of this board thinks Wilson is similar to Smith. It's mind boggling to me that people think a 3rd year QB with a Super Bowl win, who put his team in position to win another Super Bowl, and who took the lead 2 years ago with less than a minute left in the playoffs is of the same caliber as a 10 year vet with no accomplishments other than a single playoff victory against the Saints.

yep

[ViperVisor]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I really can't believe more than 50% of this board thinks Wilson is similar to Smith. It's mind boggling to me that people think a 3rd year QB with a Super Bowl win, who put his team in position to win another Super Bowl, and who took the lead 2 years ago with less than a minute left in the playoffs is of the same caliber as a 10 year vet with no accomplishments other than a single playoff victory against the Saints.

Slightly modify a few words and it's 1 of a number of names I don't hear shouted as often as good replacements for Smith.

Colin Kaepernick
Matthew Stafford
Mark Sanchez
Jay Cutler
Andy Dalton
Robert Griffin
Geno Smith
Vince Young

Others like should trade for McNabb or draft Jimmy Clausen were legit ideas from professional football talking heads.

There are the few very best QB and then it's a the best of the rest. Somehow the what if of Wilson is the shining star to point to now that the giant pile of other recent QBs other than Luck is mostly wreckage.

Why nitpick impossible BS?
No **** Sherlock. Lets cut to the chase.
How bout the 49ers drafted Rodgers instead of Smith. Or KC takes him before GB.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Because for every half of good play, Alex has several games of playing like a chickenshit. That's why people doubt him. The glass is half full people will say "look at the first half against the Colts". The glass is half empty will say "look at the entire Tennessee game or end of the San Fran game." Whether you want to admit it or not, Wilson tends to step up more often than not and make plays when the team needs it. Alex hasn't.

And this ability to "make plays" is tightly connected to being an overall more dynamic player last year. Specifically, Russell was a very productive runner. He averaged 53 YPG on the ground, with 217.2 YPG passing.

Smith, on the other hand, averaged 17 YPG on the ground, with 217.7 YPG passing.

Get over 800 yards rushing from your QB, and you're damn right that this changes the overall complexion a shit ton.