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Old 07-02-2015, 03:22 PM   #1
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Alex Smith can't win a Super Bowl they say...

Here are his playoff AVERAGES

291 passing yards per game
7.7 ypa
42 rushing yards per game
3.3tds per game
0 ints per game

Yup...sure can't win with those kinda pedestrian numbers.
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Old 07-02-2015, 03:25 PM   #2
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Alex Smith can't win a Super Bowl they say...

Here are his playoff AVERAGES

291 passing yards per game
42 rushing yards per game
3.3tds per game
0 ints per game

Yup...sure can't win with those kinda pedestrian numbers.
That's dumb. Given the right circumstances probably 20-25 QB's if not more COULD win a SB IMO.

What really matters is your odds of winning. If Rodgers is at 25% I'd say Alex is under 5%.
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Old 07-02-2015, 03:29 PM   #3
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Alex Smith can't win a Super Bowl they say...

Here are his playoff AVERAGES

291 passing yards per game
7.7 ypa
42 rushing yards per game
3.3tds per game
0 ints per game

Yup...sure can't win with those kinda pedestrian numbers.
He's played in three ****ing playoff games. Probably wise not to start sucking our own dicks just yet.

The sample size doesn't allow one to make claims about his playoff ability.
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Old 07-02-2015, 03:54 PM   #4
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He's played in three ****ing playoff games. Probably wise not to start sucking our own dicks just yet.

The sample size doesn't allow one to make claims about his playoff ability.
It shows he isn't a liability in the playoffs, at minimum..and shows he has the ability to play at a high level on the big stage.
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Old 07-02-2015, 03:55 PM   #5
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It shows he isn't a liability in the playoffs, at minimum..and shows he has the ability to play at a high level on the big stage.
Why the **** can't he do it during the regular season?
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Old 07-02-2015, 03:58 PM   #6
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Why the **** can't he do it during the regular season?
Lack of urgency of the players around him?
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Old 07-02-2015, 03:59 PM   #7
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Lack of urgency of the players around him?
So it's all the other player's fault?
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Old 07-02-2015, 04:04 PM   #8
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So it's all the other player's fault?
It was a question, not a statement.

That said, it's a valid question, for sure. How many times have you seen Dwayne Bowe get 150 yards+ in a game? How many times have we seen Donnie Avery get open for a big play and NOT drop the ball? Same goes for AJ Jenkins. Without his big catch, I doubt he's a 2014 Chief.

Ron Parker, Brandon Flowers, Eric Berry - those guys were playing their asses off and the reason the Chiefs gave up so many points in the second half was mainly due to the loss of Flowers. T.Y. Hilton started going off and no one could cover him.

There was certainly a lack of intensity by several players in 2014, beginning with Dwayne Bowe. It's silly not to believe the Chiefs will be a better team and have better play from their QB in 2015.
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It shows he isn't a liability in the playoffs, at minimum..and shows he has the ability to play at a high level on the big stage.
It shows almost nothing because of the limited sample size.
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Old 07-02-2015, 04:09 PM   #10
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It shows almost nothing because of the limited sample size.
Probably, but maybe not.

If a guy goes out there and in his very first game in the post-season plays a hell of a game, it doesn't say that's what he'll always do, but it does say that the moment isn't too big for him.

As a Cardinals fan, I'm not afraid of Michael Wacha going out there and being cowed by a showdown with Clayton Kershaw. Sure, he may go out there, not have his best stuff that day and just flat lose - but it won't be because he's afraid of the moment.

It's the same thing with Alex Smith. I don't believe any player is capable of flipping on the 'pressure' switch and playing better in the clutch. I believe over large enough sample sizes, virtually everybody's post-season performance will mirror their regular season performances. However, I maintain an exception to that rule in that believe that players are sometimes unable to handle the pressure of the post-season and those players will fold because of that pressure.

I don't think we have to worry about that with Smith. The pressure won't unravel Smith in the post-season. That's a pretty damn handy bit of information to have for a team that intends to win around him and not through him. It means they can rely on a baseline performance from him in the post-season and build from there.
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Old 07-02-2015, 04:15 PM   #11
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Probably, but maybe not.

If a guy goes out there and in his very first game in the post-season plays a hell of a game, it doesn't say that's what he'll always do, but it does say that the moment isn't too big for him.

As a Cardinals fan, I'm not afraid of Michael Wacha going out there and being cowed by a showdown with Clayton Kershaw. Sure, he may go out there, not have his best stuff that day and just flat lose - but it won't be because he's afraid of the moment.

It's the same thing with Alex Smith. I don't believe any player is capable of flipping on the 'pressure' switch and playing better in the clutch. I believe over large enough sample sizes, virtually everybody's post-season performance will mirror their regular season performances. However, I maintain an exception to that rule in that believe that players are sometimes unable to handle the pressure of the post-season and those players will fold because of that pressure.

I don't think we have to worry about that with Smith. The pressure won't unravel Smith in the post-season. That's a pretty damn handy bit of information to have for a team that intends to win around him and not through him. It means they can rely on a baseline performance from him in the post-season and build from there.
I agree with your overall sentiment that "clutch" doesn't exist but "choking" absolutely does.
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I agree with your overall sentiment that "clutch" doesn't exist but "choking" absolutely does.
Watchout saying that, you'll get bombarded.
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Here's something for people to think about. Below are facts.

In 2011 on a top 5 talented 49er team, Alex Smith has SIX 4th quarter comeback wins.

In the middle of November (can't find the stat for the year so if anyone can assist that'd be great) he had a 4th Q QBR of 118.8, which was first in the NFL.


http://www.ninersnation.com/2011/11/...ch-quarterback

And in 2012 he played 8 games (other 2 he barely played due to injury) and had 12 TD's and 1,659 yards, translating to 3,300 ish yards with 24 TD's.

In the 2nd half of 2013, with what I would call a slightly below average receiving core and a slightly above average OL (that's fair right?), there were Alex's numbers (including the playoff game)

18 TD's/3 INT's and 1,772 yards.

So, having said that, and knowing the stats he has in the playoffs, do you think Alex can replicate those numbers with the following:

-an at least average OL like the 2nd half of 2013
-best WR core he's ever had (this is fair to say, and mostly because of Maclin)
-having a top 10 talented team
-throwing more in Reid's offense

What say you?
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