ChiefsPlanet It's been a long time coming. Adiós. - Page 40

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-01-2015, 02:04 PM

It's time for me to bow out. It's been almost 10 years, and I'm tired.

Tired of the false narratives. Tired of people arguing the poster instead of the post. Tired of discussing football with people who favor excuses over evidence. Tired of wasting time talking about an organization that hasn't won a playoff game in the lifetime of a college senior. Tired of watching other great posters leaving entirely or posting less, weakening the Football IQ this place was known for 5-10 years ago.

I know posting a thread instead of just walking away will open the door for many to take their cheap shots - we all know who they are - and if you don't, just wait. They'll show themselves. Those of you that know me privately know this has been building for a long time.

With all that said, I'll say what I've always said: This team has talent, but will continually fall short as long as they keep thinking you can win in the postseason consistently with average QB play. You don't put enough pressure on the opposing defense, and it puts too much pressure on your defense - if they don't have a near-perfect day, you lose.

Peters and Conley were great picks and should make an impact in the years to come. Should be fun to watch. (What? According to some, I NEVER say anything positive - just another false narrative) While I doubt he'll get his shot, I'd like to see if Murray can be that franchise guy, or if he fell for reasons other than what people here assume - namely, his height and injury history. Hopefully they get Houston signed long-term, because if they don't they are in deep, deep shit. The defense tends to carry this team, and Houston is the most important cog in said defense.

I've made a lot of great friends here that are still friends to this day, and will continue to be. This place was awesome when it was more community based - when there would be gatherings, tailgates, etc. Now, it's littered with trolls that take advantage of the anonymity of the internet and would never show their face in public. That attitude has weakened this place considerably, IMHO.

For those of you I call a friend, we'll be in touch. If anyone that isn't already a friend privately or on Facebook/Twitter wants to continue to keep in touch, I'll keep my PM's open for a week or so.

Thanks, Kyle. It was fun for a while. Queue the "well, bye/sour grapes" posts in 3...2...1.

Hammock Parties · 07-10-2015, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The fact of the matter is that Chiefsplanet has a become a forum that hates all QB's unless they're Hall of Fame QB's. That's it. No one else will do.

This is not true. A lot of us would be more than happy with our own Joe Flacco.

The problem is the idiots who support whatever retread of the month the franchise is currently suckling. They will tear down anyone who's not a hall of famer (like Flacco) in order to prop up said retread.

For ****'s sake, we had idiots on here last year saying Alex Smith was better than Ben Roethlisberger.

ViperVisor · 07-10-2015, 03:09 PM

LOLZ

Since when is this place cool with a QB getting 49% of his completions from passes to WRs and a Yards Per Attempt under 7.0 ?

That is Flacco from 2011 to present

**Bearcat** · 07-10-2015, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I see why the guy left with shit like this being posted.

Must resist urge for name change to Strawman...

**loochy** · 07-10-2015, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

Must resist urge for name change to Strawman...

Why must you resist the urge? Don't resist it.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-10-2015, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I see why the guy left with shit like this being posted.

My point stands.

Thanks for further solidification.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-10-2015, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs

This is not true. A lot of us would be more than happy with our own Joe Flacco.

I don't believe that for a second.

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Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs

The problem is the idiots who support whatever retread of the month the franchise is currently suckling. They will tear down anyone who's not a hall of famer (like Flacco) in order to prop up said retread.

What do you expect people to do? Not buy tickets because you don't like Alex Smith? Refuse to watch the Chiefs on TV, even though they've had two back-to-back winning seasons in 20 years?

Your so-called "standards" are way too high for the common fan. Most people just want to enjoy their 16 Sundays of football, hang out with friends, eat food and see a winning football team.

Playoffs and Super Bowl wins would be great, but they're not the reason why tens of millions of people watch the NFL each week.

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Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs

For ****'s sake, we had idiots on here last year saying Alex Smith was better than Ben Roethlisberger.

Who cares? There have been idiots on Chiefsplanet since its inception, just as there are idiots on every fan related site and sites like PFT.

**Bearcat** · 07-10-2015, 04:25 PM

If I thought it would make a difference, yes, I'd definitely like the average fan to up their game and not settle for Bud Light quality football and ~11 win seasons against watered down competition.

omg, what about (insert game)!!

Hammock Parties · 07-10-2015, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I don't believe that for a second.

I do. This place was nuts for Trent Green. They'd be more than happy with Flacco.

**HemiEd** · 07-10-2015, 04:43 PM

Alex Smith does not suck, he is just a symptom in a long line of them. He is above average in my opinion.

**AustinChief** · 07-10-2015, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Alex Smith does not suck, he is just a symptom in a long line of them. He is above average in my opinion.

And your opinion is correct!

Smith is slightly above average. BUT because he had such high expectations he will always be perceived as less than he is unless he plays way above average.

Smith is the perfect QB to win a SuperBowl with when you have a dominating D, great O-line, great running game and top 5 special teams. We very well could have 3 of those 4 components in place this year but unless our o-line magically gets good and Reid stops ignoring the running game when it is working... we're probably not going anywhere with Smith.

**AustinChief** · 07-10-2015, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs

This is not true. A lot of us would be more than happy with our own Joe Flacco.

I was a "draft Flacco" guy that year... so I know I'd be happy with him.

EDIT: Just looked up my post on him and this was Hamas' response to it...

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Flacco is a homeless man's Drew Bledsoe at best.

**HemiEd** · 07-10-2015, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

And your opinion is correct!

Smith is slightly above average. BUT because he had such high expectations he will always be perceived as less than he is unless he plays way above average.

Smith is the perfect QB to win a SuperBowl with when you have a dominating D, great O-line, great running game and top 5 special teams. We very well could have 3 of those 4 components in place this year but unless our o-line magically gets good and Reid stops ignoring the running game when it is working... we're probably not going anywhere with Smith.

Bingo, hammer meet nail!

He is just not strong enough to overcome shortcomings in those areas like the true franchise QB that many of us would like to see them at least try and take a chance on.

It's not going to happen though, so I will just enjoy the team for what it is and hope we can get to a wild card game again soon

**HemiEd** · 07-10-2015, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

I was a "draft Flacco" guy that year... so I know I'd be happy with him.

EDIT: Just looked up my post on him and this was Hamas' response to it...

Hammock Parties · 07-10-2015, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

I will just enjoy the team for what it is

Agreed. I love going to the circus and watching the clowns.

**BigMeatballDave** · 07-10-2015, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

If I thought it would make a difference, yes, I'd definitely like the average fan to up their game and not settle for Bud Light quality football and ~11 win seasons against watered down competition.

Settle? Fans have no control over that, other than not going. I haven't supported this team financially since the 90s.

We can't do anything about the schedule.

07-01-2015, 02:04 PM
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2201115	It's been a long time coming. Adiós. It's time for me to bow out. It's been almost 10 years, and I'm tired. Tired of the false narratives. Tired of people arguing the poster instead of the post. Tired of discussing football with people who favor excuses over evidence. Tired of wasting time talking about an organization that hasn't won a playoff game in the lifetime of a college senior. Tired of watching other great posters leaving entirely or posting less, weakening the Football IQ this place was known for 5-10 years ago. I know posting a thread instead of just walking away will open the door for many to take their cheap shots - we all know who they are - and if you don't, just wait. They'll show themselves. Those of you that know me privately know this has been building for a long time. With all that said, I'll say what I've always said: This team has talent, but will continually fall short as long as they keep thinking you can win in the postseason consistently with average QB play. You don't put enough pressure on the opposing defense, and it puts too much pressure on your defense - if they don't have a near-perfect day, you lose. Peters and Conley were great picks and should make an impact in the years to come. Should be fun to watch. (What? According to some, I NEVER say anything positive - just another false narrative) While I doubt he'll get his shot, I'd like to see if Murray can be that franchise guy, or if he fell for reasons other than what people here assume - namely, his height and injury history. Hopefully they get Houston signed long-term, because if they don't they are in deep, deep shit. The defense tends to carry this team, and Houston is the most important cog in said defense. I've made a lot of great friends here that are still friends to this day, and will continue to be. This place was awesome when it was more community based - when there would be gatherings, tailgates, etc. Now, it's littered with trolls that take advantage of the anonymity of the internet and would never show their face in public. That attitude has weakened this place considerably, IMHO. For those of you I call a friend, we'll be in touch. If anyone that isn't already a friend privately or on Facebook/Twitter wants to continue to keep in touch, I'll keep my PM's open for a week or so. Thanks, Kyle. It was fun for a while. Queue the "well, bye/sour grapes" posts in 3...2...1.
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07-10-2015, 03:09 PM	#587
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HemiEd Supporter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ozarks Casino cash: $-309436	Alex Smith does not suck, he is just a symptom in a long line of them. He is above average in my opinion.
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