Chiefs Justin Houston Contract Rumor... - Page 36

**ChiefGator** · 07-11-2015, 02:04 PM

Yeah, yeah.. Bleacher report.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...ey-from-chiefs

Says Justin Houston wants a JJ Watt type contract from the Chiefs. Watt signed a six year 100 million deal with Houston.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-texans/j.j.-watt/

Those numbers actually seem fairly reasonable, assuming Houston keeps at his trade. Probably ends up being a little bit less guaranteed, but I could certainly live with that salary cap hit year-by-year.

**TimBone** · 07-13-2015, 05:35 PM

If Weatherman's news is right, I'm posting nudes in celebration.

MGM · 07-13-2015, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

He's already more complete than DT ever was.

If he's able to turn in consistent 16-ish sack seasons into his early 30s and up his FF totals, he'll eclipse DT.

He still has a lot to prove and is overrated in coverage IMO. Stats aren't everything

Sully · 07-13-2015, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MGM

I am a UGA guy. I was happy as hell when we drafted Houston. I wear his Chiefs jersey with my UGA hat all over town. That said, he's not like DT IMO. He plays on the left side for starters.

DT played on the left side at times, as well. So did LT. They all have.

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He also has a lot more pass rush help than DT had most of his career.

WHAT? DT has Smith and some very good interior rushers his entire career.

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Originally Posted by MGM

He rarely gets doubled. Teams can't game plan for him because of Tamba. It would be interesting to see Houston play on the right without a stud OLB opposite of him. He didn't even play on the right side at UGA. He still has a lot to prove before he's in the DT conversation.

He also drops into coverage more than most pass rushers, so it evens out. It's too bad you don't know what you're talking about.

**The Franchise** · 07-13-2015, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MGM

He still has a lot to prove and is overrated in coverage IMO. Stats aren't everything

In your opinion....you thought that Siler was a great tackler and that McCluster was quicker than Charles.

Your opinion is worthless.

**mdchiefsfan** · 07-13-2015, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Even then, it's not like the link he's referring to actually says what he says it does.

Only Justin Houston news I can find on the front page:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...eadline-primer

I still think Weatherman's right on this. I'm just saying that penbrook's nfl.com link doesn't exactly say what he claims it said.

Oh trust me, there is still work to be done; just taking the positive reinforcement approach and seeing if that gets us anywhere, since we know ragging on him has done nothing.

**hometeam** · 07-13-2015, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MGM

He still has a lot to prove and is overrated in coverage IMO. Stats aren't everything

god damn man. If you arent failing at trolling you are failing at football.

Houston is arguably the best defensive player on the league. Deal with it.

MGM · 07-13-2015, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sully

DT played on the left side at times, as well. So did LT. They all have.

WHAT? DT has Smith and some very good interior rushers his entire career.

He also drops into coverage more than most pass rushers, so it evens out. It's too bad you don't know what you're talking about.

If that were true he wouldn't have had twenty sacks. He wants to be paid as a pass rusher. That is his argument for Watt money. Coverage isn't even relevant. If Sutton dropped him back more than other pass rushers, he would be on the street.

MGM · 07-13-2015, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by hometeam

god damn man. If you arent failing at trolling you are failing at football.

Houston is arguably the best defensive player on the league. Deal with it.

I don't agree. I think the top 100 was pretty accurate in Houston's case. He was the 9th best defensive player.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 07-13-2015, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MGM

If that were true he wouldn't have had twenty sacks. He wants to be paid as a pass rusher. That is his argument for Watt money. Coverage isn't even relevant. If Sutton dropped him back more than other pass rushers, he would be on the street.

How ****ing dumb can a person be ?

**hometeam** · 07-13-2015, 05:43 PM

"Houston’s dominance was as a pass rusher, but he still graded positively as both a run defender (+8.1) and in coverage (+1.4). That means that throughout his career Houston has only graded negatively in one facet of the game over the course of a season once; his coverage grade during his rookie season. In 2014 he dropped into coverage 158 times.."

**Rausch** · 07-13-2015, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MGM

He still has a lot to prove and is overrated in coverage IMO. Stats aren't everything

****ing kill yourself.

Slowly...

MGM · 07-13-2015, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

How ****ing dumb can a person be ?

Did Parcell's drop LT into coverage more than any other pass rusher? Are you serious? His job is to wreak havoc in the backfield. Not be Derrick Brooks.

**hometeam** · 07-13-2015, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MGM

Did Parcell's drop LT into coverage more than any other pass rusher? Are you serious? His job is to wreak havoc in the backfield. Not be Derrick Brooks.

Shit like this is why people cant take you seriously. Combine it with your mental baggage, and you wonder why you cant make it two weeks without a ban.

Mother****erJones · 07-13-2015, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

In your opinion....you thought that Siler was a great tackler and that McCluster was quicker than Charles.

Your opinion is worthless.

really? He's more reeruned by the minute

**Rausch** · 07-13-2015, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MGM

Did Parcell's drop LT into coverage more than any other pass rusher? Are you serious? His job is to wreak havoc in the backfield. Not be Derrick Brooks.

Your inability to see he's 1/4 Brooks, 1/4, Hardy Nickerson, and 1/2 DT is your failing.

That's what he is.

He is - BY FAR - the best OLB in the game...

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