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Old 07-11-2015, 02:04 PM  
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Justin Houston Contract Rumor...
Yeah, yeah.. Bleacher report.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...ey-from-chiefs

Says Justin Houston wants a JJ Watt type contract from the Chiefs. Watt signed a six year 100 million deal with Houston.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-texans/j.j.-watt/

Those numbers actually seem fairly reasonable, assuming Houston keeps at his trade. Probably ends up being a little bit less guaranteed, but I could certainly live with that salary cap hit year-by-year.
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Old 07-14-2015, 08:33 PM   #856
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Old 07-14-2015, 08:33 PM   #857
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Link? That is not what I said. I see what you are doing
Fair point. I did get wrong what you said.

However, I still don't get your line of reasoning in these posts:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=532

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http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=545

We're saying he's not some OLB that teams can just neutralize by running straight at him, nor is he some OLB that can be duped when he stays behind to cover TEs and RBs on short routes.

In fact, not only is he solid in those areas, but he's top 3 in the league among 3-4 OLBs. He's probably the best, actually.

That would be worthless if his pass rushing skills were mediocre. Oh, wait... they're actually not mediocre at all. They're 22 MOTHER****ING SACKS

That's IN ADDITION to what he does when he's not rushing the QB.

You were talking earlier about wanting COMPLETE and GAME-CHANGING players if you were going to give JJ Watt money to any players. Well, I'd probably call that game-changing.
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Old 07-14-2015, 08:41 PM   #858
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Old 07-14-2015, 08:56 PM   #859
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Fair point. I did get wrong what you said.

However, I still don't get your line of reasoning in these posts:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=532

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=537

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=545

We're saying he's not some OLB that teams can just neutralize by running straight at him, nor is he some OLB that can be duped when he stays behind to cover TEs and RBs on short routes.

In fact, not only is he solid in those areas, but he's top 3 in the league among 3-4 OLBs. He's probably the best, actually.

That would be worthless if his pass rushing skills were mediocre. Oh, wait... they're actually not mediocre at all. They're 22 MOTHER****ING SACKS

That's IN ADDITION to what he does when he's not rushing the QB.

You were talking earlier about wanting COMPLETE and GAME-CHANGING players if you were going to give JJ Watt money to any players. Well, I'd probably call that game-changing.
Seems to forget that Houston would have had a shot at the record if they hadn't insisted on dropping him into coverage. Which he did with complaining.

He is to the defensive side of the ball what Charles is to the offensive side. He can kill you everywhere in every facet.
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Old 07-14-2015, 09:12 PM   #860
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Let's look at his oft-repeated "evidence" that Houston isn't that good because he plays on the left side.

If that is such an easy way to go let sacks, why don't all teams play their best rusher on that side?

There's a reason.

LTS are obviously your best pass blockers. They need to be, because they are on an island. On the other side, most snaps there is a TE who, if not helping in the passing game, is at the very least chipping the rusher. The rusher on the left side also has more responsibilities, with run responsibilities, checking the TE (unless a wide 9), and in Houston's case, much of the time containing a mobile QB. (Go watch the home Raiders game from 2013, Houston's job all day was to rush to QB depth, and then spy). A rusher from the right side just rushes.
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At this point, I'll be disappointed if a deal doesn't get done. Just seems so optimistic right now.
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Old 07-14-2015, 09:19 PM   #862
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I think he does fine in front of a camera. Don't know where you're getting this from.
Sure. 22 Sacks this last season. How many commercials has he done? Name me the last NFL player who had 20+ sacks and didn't get commercials?

I love me some Houston. He may be the modern day DT on the field but he just doesn't have the personality of DT or JJ. He is what he is. Best damn defensive player we have had in a long time. Thats good enough for me.
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Old 07-14-2015, 09:23 PM   #863
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Houston isn't a renowned player media wise because of the city where he's playing.

He gets 22 sacks in New York, you bet your ass he's in commercials with Strahan.
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Old 07-14-2015, 09:26 PM   #864
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Houston isn't a renowned player media wise because of the city where he's playing.

well that, and KC hasn't won over a dozen NFL championships also like the town of GB
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Sure. 22 Sacks this last season. How many commercials has he done? Name me the last NFL player who had 20+ sacks and didn't get commercials?

I love me some Houston. He may be the modern day DT on the field but he just doesn't have the personality of DT or JJ. He is what he is. Best damn defensive player we have had in a long time. Thats good enough for me.

I don't ever remember seeing Jared Allen in any commercials
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I don't ever remember seeing Jared Allen in any commercials
What about those ones where the woman is all l 'HE WENT TO JARED' etc

EXPLAIN THAT ONE THEN
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Sure. 22 Sacks this last season. How many commercials has he done? Name me the last NFL player who had 20+ sacks and didn't get commercials?

I love me some Houston. He may be the modern day DT on the field but he just doesn't have the personality of DT or JJ. He is what he is. Best damn defensive player we have had in a long time. Thats good enough for me.
He is very articulate and has a great personality. What are you talking about?
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