Chiefs Justin Houston Contract Rumor... - Page 64

**ChiefGator** · 07-11-2015, 02:04 PM

Yeah, yeah.. Bleacher report.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...ey-from-chiefs

Says Justin Houston wants a JJ Watt type contract from the Chiefs. Watt signed a six year 100 million deal with Houston.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-texans/j.j.-watt/

Those numbers actually seem fairly reasonable, assuming Houston keeps at his trade. Probably ends up being a little bit less guaranteed, but I could certainly live with that salary cap hit year-by-year.

**Rausch** · 07-15-2015, 08:03 AM

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Dude, it's Rausch. It is what it is.

How often are players tagged two years in a row genius?...

**Bugeater** · 07-15-2015, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

Any advice on the aluminum horse?

Depends on what type of riding you want to do, I'm partial to Trek because I think they give you the most bang for the buck. Hybrids are the most versatile and can be ridden on pretty much any surface. I currently have cyclocross which is versatile as well but a little more expensive than a hybrid.

Man we are waaayyy off topic.

O.city · 07-15-2015, 08:05 AM

Literally every media guy us reporting the chiefs are making a big offer to houston, the two sides are talking and in town today.

So I'm not really sure where you're coming from Rausch but it's kind of the norm so again, it is what it is

**LoneWolf** · 07-15-2015, 08:05 AM

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How often are players tagged two years in a row genius?...

How often do teams use the tag one year and then just let the player walk without compensation the next year?

**Rausch** · 07-15-2015, 08:06 AM

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How often do teams use the tag one year and then just let the player walk without compensation the next year?

Is your memory really that bad?...

**Bugeater** · 07-15-2015, 08:07 AM

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If you wear huskers gear they'll beat u with a bag of corn cobs up in that part of the state!

I'm more worried about someone going deliverance on my ass.

**LoneWolf** · 07-15-2015, 08:07 AM

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They aren't paying him 120% of the tag from this year. That's pretty much what he's reportedly asking for. If they're going to do that they might as well sign him long term.

He's exactly the kind of player you lock up long term. Young, one of the best in the league, no character issues. He's the best player on our team AND next year we're in great cap shape.

It's not that we can't pay him what he wants or is worth it's that we don't want to...

Again, what makes you think they don't want to pay Houston what he's worth?

Dunerdr · 07-15-2015, 08:07 AM

I bet they offer a medium-high contract that's manageable with the deadline. And let him have only hours to think about a full season of possible injuries that can hurt next years offer. No one goes in at the last minute and makes the best offer possible. That's not how it works.

**LoneWolf** · 07-15-2015, 08:07 AM

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Is your memory really that bad?...

Enlighten me.

**Rausch** · 07-15-2015, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

So I'm not really sure where you're coming from Rausch but it's kind of the norm so again, it is what it is

I don't think I've been unclear.

And I can't help it you only remember when I say something negative about the team. If you want to be one of many here who only see black and white you're free to do so...

aturnis · 07-15-2015, 08:12 AM

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Enlighten me.

Brandon Albert

MGM · 07-15-2015, 08:14 AM

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Fair point. I did get wrong what you said.

However, I still don't get your line of reasoning in these posts:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=532

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=537

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=545

We're saying he's not some OLB that teams can just neutralize by running straight at him, nor is he some OLB that can be duped when he stays behind to cover TEs and RBs on short routes.

In fact, not only is he solid in those areas, but he's top 3 in the league among 3-4 OLBs. He's probably the best, actually.

That would be worthless if his pass rushing skills were mediocre. Oh, wait... they're actually not mediocre at all. They're 22 MOTHER****ING SACKS

That's IN ADDITION to what he does when he's not rushing the QB.

You were talking earlier about wanting COMPLETE and GAME-CHANGING players if you were going to give JJ Watt money to any players. Well, I'd probably call that game-changing.

OK, you are misunderstanding me dude.

First, I think Houston is the best 3-4 OLB in the game period. I believe he should be the highest paid LB in the game. I am fine with him making in the $14-15 Million per year range. He's good against the run and the pass. I just think some people make him out to be the next Derrick Brooks or something as far as his coverage skills go.

Second, all of that stuff I posted was in terms of his contract. To Justin, his coverage ability has nothing to do with what he wants in terms of a contract. He wants to be paid like a DE. He wants to paid as a "pass rusher" and not a LB. They make more money and aren't paid for coverage skills. That's why I keep saying his pass coverage skills are really irrelevant in this conversation. I think it's obvious Dorsey wants to make him the highest paid LB because he is the total package.

I don't remember talking about "complete game changing players." That must have been someone else. I think Houston is a complete game changing player. There is no doubt. However, I argue that he isn't like JJ Watt. JJ is special man. He's a 3-4 DE who wreaks havoc in the backfield, changes games, and gets pick sixes. There is really no one who he compares to. The closest are Richard Seymour and Bruce Smith but, at this point he looks better.

Hope that clears things up. Thanks for being patient.

**Rausch** · 07-15-2015, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Enlighten me.

Brandon Albert?...

milkman · 07-15-2015, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Enlighten me.

I'm guessing that he's alluding to Albert.

It was pretty clear in that case that they never had any long term plans at attempting to keep him.

**LoneWolf** · 07-15-2015, 08:16 AM

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Brandon Albert

Miami overpaid for an often injured slightly above average left tackle. The Chiefs made the right decision in letting Albert go. I'll bet Miami wishes Albert was still in KC.

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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-635936	Literally every media guy us reporting the chiefs are making a big offer to houston, the two sides are talking and in town today. So I'm not really sure where you're coming from Rausch but it's kind of the norm so again, it is what it is
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Dunerdr MVP Join Date: Oct 2012 Casino cash: $-2770000	I bet they offer a medium-high contract that's manageable with the deadline. And let him have only hours to think about a full season of possible injuries that can hurt next years offer. No one goes in at the last minute and makes the best offer possible. That's not how it works. __________________ Adopt-A-Chief- Rachel Santschi
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