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Old 07-21-2015, 01:51 PM  
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Cool F15 dogfight video

I dont know if there has been a modern day jet fighter dogfight since VN but this is apparently what it would look like.
Added plus the music isn't Danger Zone TG.


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Old 07-22-2015, 03:04 PM   #31
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Yep. "Boys will be boys!" was playing in my head while watching that.
The men on carriers had some cool ways to blow-off steam that we didn't on submarines. There were times when when we flew out to carriers where I was just in awe of some of the coolness. Now, they did have a lot of goofy rules that I didn't quite get, but this isn't about that, it's about celebrating bad-ass planes in the U.S. inventory (even if retired)...
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Old 07-22-2015, 03:07 PM   #32
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The men on carriers had some cool ways to blow-off steam the we didn't on submarines. There were times when when we flew out to carriers where I was just in awe of some of the coolness. Now, they did have a lot of goofy rules that I didn't quite get, but this isn't about that, it's about celebrating bad-ass planes in the U.S. inventory (even if retired)...
When the Air Force finally gets their way and kills off the A-10, I'll be every bit as sad as I was when they put the last F-14 in mothballs.

That has to be considered the most successful airframe in US history, doesn't it? Has any plane we've ever had been better at it's job than the A-10 is at close air support?
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Y'know what, I take that back - it's probably the Mustang. With the added range that the Mustang had, we were able to provide far better bomber escorts and suddenly our bombers weren't getting knocked out of the sky faster than we could build them.

The A-10 is great at what it does but it didn't have nearly the far-reaching impact that the Mustang did. It changed the entire way we dealt with the Luftwaffe and as a result, Germany as a whole.
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When the Air Force finally gets their way and kills off the A-10, I'll be every bit as sad as I was when they put the last F-14 in mothballs.

That has to be considered the most successful airframe in US history, doesn't it? Has any plane we've ever had been better at it's job than the A-10 is at close air support?
A tip of the cap to ya Sir... I agree. I was Navy, and the one thing I'd say about the A-10 drivers was that they were welcome in my house any day. They were some bad-ass dudes in a bad-ass plane.

And when you need help, and it's umbrella weather (so many of the other guys want to stay inside), the A-10 were their adding to the rain.

Bad-ass dude, BAD-ASS!!
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Old 07-22-2015, 03:18 PM   #35
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. I was there from 88-91.





I was 8 years old when we moved there.
Lol, what a small world. You were probably one of the little shits raising hell at the USO or arcade constantly, weren't you? Haha
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Lol, what a small world. You were probably one of the little shits raising hell at the USO or arcade constantly, weren't you? Haha
Probably. My Dad was First Sgt at one of the squadrons there.
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When the Air Force finally gets their way and kills off the A-10, I'll be every bit as sad as I was when they put the last F-14 in mothballs.

That has to be considered the most successful airframe in US history, doesn't it? Has any plane we've ever had been better at it's job than the A-10 is at close air support?
I was stationed at Davis-Monthan in Tucson and we used to go out and watch the A-10s. Those things are ****ing amazing.
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A tip of the cap to ya Sir... I agree. I was Navy, and the one thing I'd say about the A-10 drivers was that they were welcome in my house any day. They were some bad-ass dudes in a bad-ass plane.

And when you need help, and it's umbrella weather (so many of the other guys want to stay inside), the A-10 were their adding to the rain.

Bad-ass dude, BAD-ASS!!
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They had to upgrade the engines during testing because the force from the cannon was putting the plane at stall speeds.

I got to fly alongside (and by alongside, I was probably 20 miles out) a couple of A-10 while I was in a Cesna 172 coming into the private airport in Oklahoma City. It was awfully cool even sharing the same sky with those guys. The only thing comparable was when I was driving into Whitman for my JAG interview and they had one of the Spirits landing. It flew right over top of my car as I was coming into the base and with flaps down and being that low in the air, the thing absolutely looked like a hovering alien spacecraft. It was completely surreal. I got to go drive the flight line with the base JAG officer; man it was cool. Earlier in that week someone taxiing one had smashed a wing into the garage and really messed it up. Gotta figure that left a mark on their record...
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Did you know that if you strapped the vulcan cannon from a Warthog to the top of your car, put it in neutral and then laid on the trigger you'd get from 0-60 in about 3 seconds?

https://what-if.xkcd.com/21/

They had to upgrade the engines during testing because the force from the cannon was putting the plane at stall speeds.

I got to fly alongside (and by alongside, I was probably 20 miles out) a couple of A-10 while I was in a Cesna 172 coming into the private airport in Oklahoma City. It was awfully cool even sharing the same sky with those guys. The only thing comparable was when I was driving into Whitman for my JAG interview and they had one of the Spirits landing. It flew right over top of my car as I was coming into the base and with flaps down and being that low in the air, the thing absolutely looked like a hovering alien spacecraft. It was completely surreal. I got to go drive the flight line with the base JAG officer; man it was cool. Earlier in that week someone taxiing one had smashed a wing into the garage and really messed it up. Gotta figure that left a mark on their record...
Awesome.

The day I arrived at Kadena was the last day the last SR-71 was there. We were on the tarmac processing in and the Blackbird just kept doing fly-bys. One of the last, if not the last, was a high speed fly-by, and boy could that bitch move for such a huge plane. Loved seeing the SR-71 in action.
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Awesome.

The day I arrived at Kadena was the last day the last SR-71 was there. We were on the tarmac processing in and the Blackbird just kept doing fly-bys. One of the last, if not the last, was a high speed fly-by, and boy could that bitch move for such a huge plane. Loved seeing the SR-71 in action.
I was in awe of that thing when I saw it as a kid.

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Did the planes have jet engines back then?
Yeah, but they had to change the hamsters out constantly. Little bastards weren't made for endurance. Asshole.

I had a buddy in the engine shop that let me sit backseat during an engine test on an F-15B. He let me throttle the thing up, and man is that an adrenaline rush to feel all that power. Made me want to re-enlist in OTC an be a pilot.

One of my biggest regrets of my AF time was that I never got to have a ride in the backseat of an F-15. Had a couple of friends that got the chance and said it was amzing.
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Awesome.

The day I arrived at Kadena was the last day the last SR-71 was there. We were on the tarmac processing in and the Blackbird just kept doing fly-bys. One of the last, if not the last, was a high speed fly-by, and boy could that bitch move for such a huge plane. Loved seeing the SR-71 in action.
Did you see it on the ground?

My favorite SR-71 'trivia' is the fact that the thing got so hot and the metal expanded so much in flight that the thing leaked fuel like a sieve on the ground because they had to have gaps in every surface area.

I'd have loved to have gotten confirmation of that in person. That would be a pretty bizarre sight to behold.
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One of my biggest regrets of my AF time was that I never got to have a ride in the backseat of an F-15. Had a couple of friends that got the chance and said it was amzing.
I would have loved that. I regret not getting the chance to go to OCS, to this day.
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Yeah, but they had to change the hamsters out constantly. Little bastards weren't made for endurance. Asshole.

I had a buddy in the engine shop that let me sit backseat during an engine test on an F-15B. He let me throttle the thing up, and man is that an adrenaline rush to feel all that power. Made me want to re-enlist in OTC an be a pilot.

One of my biggest regrets of my AF time was that I never got to have a ride in the backseat of an F-15. Had a couple of friends that got the chance and said it was amzing.
Raptor pilots will swear by their own, but to my eyes the F-15 is the prettiest jet ever made and there's probably not a close 2nd. That thing is what a fighter should be.

By the time it retires it will have 40+ years in active service and will probably have been the best air to air combat platform in the world for every last one of them, with the possible exception of the F-22 but even that is close.
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