***Official 2015 STL Cardinals Thread II***

[BigRedChief]

2011 World Series Championship
2012 NLCS. One win from another WS appearance.
2013 World Series. Two wins from another World Series Championship
2014 NLCS. Three wins from another WS appearance
2015 Clinched Central Division title and Home Field advantage in the playoffs. First team in MLB to win 100 games since 2011.

• Made the postseason 11 times in the last 15 seasons.
• Only 1 losing season since 2000.
• Reached the World Series 4 times since 2004 and won as many championships (two) the past eight seasons as it did from 1965 to 2005.
• Made the NLCS 9 times including the last 4 years 2011-2014
• Three million attendance? Take it to the bank.
• 65 post season wins since 2004. 22+ wins more than any other team.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

ChiefsCountry I got really close to reporting that post but you're a good guy so I don't want you to get banned from this thread.

This is the exact kind of bitch-ass trolling that the others were mentioning. We get it--you crave attention. Just go to one of those porn sites with a chat bot in the lower corner and start hacking away on your cell phone in between your telemarketing spiels for timeshares.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

It's really not, and you're going to have to trust me a bit on this. The tip would have to be so minor as not to influence the trajectory of the ball. In other words, it has to end up in, roughly, the same spot as where the pitch would have been had no contact happened. In these instances, catchers hang on to foul tips.

Catchers cannot react to foul tips to "catch" them. It doesn't/cannot happen.

I agree the catcher has no control on which direction the ball goes after deflecting off the bat.

I would agree with BRC the ability to catch or not catch fouls tips is in direct relation to their general catching skills.

Cards traded for Cishek. That could be huge.

[jd1020]

Rumors are the Orioles are seriously considering becoming sellers and guys like Chris Davis and Matt Wieters would be sellable assets. Would think the Cards would be interested in Davis.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

If you don't put on a glove you're not a baseball player.

better get used to it ... the DH will be in the NL sooner rather than later

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Cishek ass raped my fantasy team for the first month before I cut bait, so I'm a little bitter about that. He lost a good amount of velocity over the last two years, but he throws from a low arm angle.

Barraclough is a nothing prospect. Good get.

I'd imagine this spells AAA for Socolovich rather than Tui.

[ChiefsCountry]

Source confirms: #STLCards acquiring Cishek from #Marlins. First reported: @clarkspencer.

— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) July 24, 2015

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

This is the exact kind of bitch-ass trolling that the others were mentioning. We get it--you crave attention. Just go to one of those porn sites with a chat bot in the lower corner and start hacking away on your cell phone in between your telemarketing spiels for timeshares.

?!?!

I just didn't want to see my boy get banned from your Coalition thread.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Rumors are the Orioles are seriously considering becoming sellers and guys like Chris Davis and Matt Wieters would be sellable assets. Would think the Cards would be interested in Davis.

Cardinals trading for some roids as well?

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Cardinals trading for some roids as well?

I'm sure they still have some stashed away from Tony LaRussa's stockpile.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

?!?!

I just didn't want to see my boy get banned from your Coalition thread.

So we're bad fans because we're negative but this thread is like the Coalition, where you get banned if you're negative?

Makes sense.

[Swanman]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Other than Hootie and Michigan Mike, the big thing you gripe about is the turds on the bench that get put in positions they don't need to be in. NL going to the DH would eliminate that. Seriously there is no reason we need to be seeing the Pete Kozma, Tony Cruz, Memphis Redbirds AAAA guys, Dusty Coleman types at all unless its a blowout, crazy injury, or a get away Sunday afternoon throw away game.

Of all the NL franchises a DH would be most helpful to you guys. More than likely (other than money of course) was probably a big reason why Pujols left. Chance to extend his career longer. You have Holliday, who is okay in the outfield but would be much better at this stage of his career just DHing. Berkman, Walker and several others over the years perfect roles.

I just don't see why pitchers hit and other turds in the game, makes it any better. I'm just really surprised the player's union hasn't pushed for it more. Adding 15 more DH salaries would be more beneficial in the player's minds I'm sure instead of AAAA type talent. Just my 2 cents on the matter.

Even without the DH, Cruz and Kozma should not be on a major league roster. Cruz does nothing well offensively or defensively. Kozma used to be a plus defender but he isn't anymore and his hitting has always been beyond bad. He is still trading off the clutch hit against the Nats in the division series years ago it seems like.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

So we're bad fans because we're negative but this thread is like the Coalition, where you get banned if you're negative?

Makes sense.

No, the thread is like the Coalition, because you guys want to have special rules for your threads to keep out sarcastic Hootie 2.0 who pokes fun at guys who overreact to losing a series in July and says things like, "welp, we just lost the division!" while maintaining a 2.5 game lead.

I'll tell you what. Make a donation to ChiefsPlanet today for $10 and I'll let you out of our Volquez bet. That's what kind of guy I am, Mr. 92 wins for the Cards because Rosenthal blew a few games in July.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Cishek ass raped my fantasy team for the first month before I cut bait, so I'm a little bitter about that. He lost a good amount of velocity over the last two years, but he throws from a low arm angle.

Barraclough is a nothing prospect. Good get.

I'd imagine this spells AAA for Socolovich rather than Tui.

Yup.

Being a tall dude with bizarre mechanics, Cishek will just flat fall out of sync sometimes and he'll be terrible. But when his mechanics are even okay, he'll be tough to pick up, especially for righties.

We gave up nothing for him. When Walden returns I have to think Tui sticks due to the progress he's made. At that point you end up with Rosenthal, Walden, Maness, Tuivialala and Cishek from the right side. You can use Cishek as almost a pure ROOGY at that point if he's just the 5th righty in your pen.

That's an October ready bullpen if someone can just keep Matheny from sending Choate out there to !@#$ it up.

[Swanman]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Cishek ass raped my fantasy team for the first month before I cut bait, so I'm a little bitter about that. He lost a good amount of velocity over the last two years, but he throws from a low arm angle.

Barraclough is a nothing prospect. Good get.

I'd imagine this spells AAA for Socolovich rather than Tui.

Maybe Lilliquist can do something for him to get him straightened out. If nothing else, he's a guy that can spell the overworked relievers and once Walden is back, Cards will have a number of good and fairly rested arms in the bullpen.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

No, the thread is like the Coalition, because you guys want to have special rules for your threads to keep out sarcastic Hootie 2.0 who pokes fun at guys who overreact to losing a series in July and says things like, "welp, we just lost the division!" while maintaining a 2.5 game lead.

I'll tell you what. Make a donation to ChiefsPlanet today for $10 and I'll let you out of our Volquez bet. That's what kind of guy I am, Mr. 92 wins for the Cards because Rosenthal blew a few games in July.

I'm not going to donate $10 to get out of a measly $20 potential obligation that allows you to crow. I made a bet, so I stick to the terms.