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Old 07-14-2015, 07:36 PM  
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2011 World Series Championship
2012 NLCS. One win from another WS appearance.
2013 World Series. Two wins from another World Series Championship
2014 NLCS. Three wins from another WS appearance
2015 Clinched Central Division title and Home Field advantage in the playoffs. First team in MLB to win 100 games since 2011.

  • Made the postseason 11 times in the last 15 seasons.
  • Only 1 losing season since 2000.
  • Reached the World Series 4 times since 2004 and won as many championships (two) the past eight seasons as it did from 1965 to 2005.
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  • 65 post season wins since 2004. 22+ wins more than any other team.
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Old 08-03-2015, 06:02 PM   #856
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Old 08-03-2015, 09:41 PM   #857
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Pgm getting his shit pushed in. I love it.

Heyward's gonna get a big contract here and I'm gonna enjoy pgm having a period explosion of epic proportions.
Not at all. Dude is producing empty stats. Not near as silly as the Holiday bashing. Holiday has always put runs on the board. That said Black Frenchy is still young enough that someday he might.
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Old 08-04-2015, 08:23 AM   #858
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Old 08-04-2015, 08:28 AM   #859
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Look at his batting stat line avg. for his career compared to this season. He's pretty much been in line with everything. The only things that might be slightly below avg. are his HRs and his OBP. He is still a fine player, he just will never be the 30 HR player people thought he could be after his rookie year.

And to PGM, who do you replace Heyward with then? Heyward/Holliday/Piscotty/Moss>Holliday/Piscotty/Moss/Pham
And his reputation, largely deserved, has been that of an underachiever.

When a guy's stats are in line with the stats that got him a fairly negative label during his young career, I think it's fair to say that he's been a disappointment. At this point he's simply disappointed a new set of fans instead of continuing to disappoint Braves fans.

And when his contract demands start getting tossed about, that disappointment will turn to anger if he's making $20+ million/season to be a complementary offensive player and corner OFer. Neither of those roles are valuable enough to justify premium $$.

I had this discussion YEARS ago with BRC when he argued that Cards fans would never turn on AP because they'd stuck beside him during his slumps. I pointed out that AP had never made market and when he was making beyond it, Cards fans would jump him quickly. Now we never got a chance to truly test that theory, but the "I'm glad he's gone, we couldn't have afforded him and X,Y,Z" fan is the majority position now. If he were still HERE soaking up 1/4 of our payroll the last 2 years and failing, disappointment would have given way to anger.

It'll happen with Heyward as well. PGM made the proper analogue when he talked about Holliday - a large swath of Cards fans have never embraced Holliday because he was expensive and doesn't have a "Cardinal Moment". It'll happen with Heyward as well, and he'll have an even less noticable impact than Holliday did.
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Old 08-04-2015, 08:45 AM   #860
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The Holliday hate has always been irrational, apparently he isn't "clutch" or whatever.
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Old 08-04-2015, 08:49 AM   #861
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Black Frenchy has to be about the worst comparison possible for Heyward. Other than them both playing RF for the Braves, there's really nothing in common.

Heyward is a far superior defensive player and well-rounded offensive player with a career walk rate 2x that of Francoeur's. He's a patient hitter who gets on base.

None of that is similar to Francoeur.
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The problem as has been discussed with heyward, is that he should hit 20 bombs per year with a high ops. Talent wise, that shouldn't be something he can't do.

Mentally though, he seems to fragile
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Old 08-04-2015, 08:58 AM   #863
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And his reputation, largely deserved, has been that of an underachiever.

When a guy's stats are in line with the stats that got him a fairly negative label during his young career, I think it's fair to say that he's been a disappointment. At this point he's simply disappointed a new set of fans instead of continuing to disappoint Braves fans.

And when his contract demands start getting tossed about, that disappointment will turn to anger if he's making $20+ million/season to be a complementary offensive player and corner OFer. Neither of those roles are valuable enough to justify premium $$.

I had this discussion YEARS ago with BRC when he argued that Cards fans would never turn on AP because they'd stuck beside him during his slumps. I pointed out that AP had never made market and when he was making beyond it, Cards fans would jump him quickly. Now we never got a chance to truly test that theory, but the "I'm glad he's gone, we couldn't have afforded him and X,Y,Z" fan is the majority position now. If he were still HERE soaking up 1/4 of our payroll the last 2 years and failing, disappointment would have given way to anger.

It'll happen with Heyward as well. PGM made the proper analogue when he talked about Holliday - a large swath of Cards fans have never embraced Holliday because he was expensive and doesn't have a "Cardinal Moment". It'll happen with Heyward as well, and he'll have an even less noticable impact than Holliday did.
He's been deemed an underachiever due to how great his rookie season was. He was pretty much hyped to be what Trout became. He'll never be what Trout is. But he's still a really good player assuming he never reaches what people thought his potential was(which I think it's looking more likely than not that he won't reach said potential).

A large reason why people haven't embraced Holliday is because he dropped a ball off his nuts in a playoff game vs the Dodgers and still hold that against him to this day even though he's been really ****ing good in St. Louis. And you're right, he doesn't have that defining "Cardinal Moment". Neither does Heyward, but we'll see how he performs in October.

I don't think he's worth $20 mil. +, but at the same time, what other options do the Cardinals have? They'll just have to address an OF solution once Holliday is gone, so why not extend Heyward to prevent that from happening? There are worse things the Cardinals can invest $20 mil./year than Heyward.
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The problem as has been discussed with heyward, is that he should hit 20 bombs per year with a high ops. Talent wise, that shouldn't be something he can't do.

Mentally though, he seems to fragile
Which he shows when he sticks his head straight up his ass on the base paths about once or twice a week.
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Black Frenchy has to be about the worst comparison possible for Heyward. Other than them both playing RF for the Braves, there's really nothing in common.

Heyward is a far superior defensive player and well-rounded offensive player with a career walk rate 2x that of Francoeur's. He's a patient hitter who gets on base.

None of that is similar to Francoeur.
It comes from early in the season when he had a horrible OBP and the homer announcers could only suck him off Frenchy style because of a strong arm. It got Os panties in a bunch, so I am still rolling with it .
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