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Old 09-18-2015, 02:37 PM  
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I'll Take Todd Haley for a hundred, Alex
Ok, I realize that most of you are not going to like this observation, but I'm going to make it anyway: We'd have been better off keeping Todd Haley as our coach than hiring Andy Reid. Yeah, I said it.

This whole franchise lacks.......balls. And not the over/under-inflated kind either. Haley was obviously learning on the job as to how to be a head coach, so he clearly made some mistakes. However, he knew that given the talent that Scooter had provided, the ONLY way for him to be competitive was to roll the dice and take some chances. Clearly, some of said chances were real boners, but the guy had cojones.

Plus, Haley had zero support from his boss who handcuffed him Mr Cassel, and didn't he have Tyler Palko as his backup QB? Those guys weren't pro-caliber QBs, heck they weren't much more than answers to trivia questions.

Haley also wasn't going to put up with pussy-footed players.....period. See DJ and Bowe about that.

Instead we now have Andy Reid who selected Alex "The Accountant" Smith as his "dynamic" QB. BTW, did you hear Smith after the game? Calmly assessed it as "only one game" and "there's a lot of football left" bullshit. And of course Reid took responsibility for the game, but Lord have mercy, what in the world does THAT mean? Is he gonna put himself in timeout?

I wanna see someone with some PASSION. Not some cool, calculating football "genius" who constantly outthinks himself. I wanted to hear "Totally and Completely Unacceptable", not this mealy-mouthed "My Responsibility" crap.

Anyway, like him or not, I claim we'd be MUCH further down the road to the Super Bowl with Todd Friggin' Haley as coach than we are with the ultra-conservative, don't push the ball down the field, Andy Reid. I can sure as hell guarantee you that Haley's choice for a QB wouldn't be some wanna-be accountant type. He'd have some gunslinger out there who shows some friggin' PASSION.

Frankly, I'm tired of all of the conservative mindlessness within this friggin' organization. Next thing you know, we're gonna change our colors to an electric beige.

Gimme a friggin' break....
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Old 09-18-2015, 05:04 PM   #61
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Not sure what you're referring to, notorious. As I recall, Haley didn't have much to work with; I'd love to see what he could do with this bunch though I doubt Alex is Haley's type QB.
He loved running McCluster up the middle for 1/2 yard gains.


He got off on it.


It was mind-bottling.
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Old 09-18-2015, 05:04 PM   #62
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Well, wouldn't you think that a QB "guru" would be able to identify good/bad QB prospects? Weiss sucked at ND, then sucked at FL, then sucked at KU. I'm not as familiar with the QBs he had at ND and FL, but at KU he couldn't identify nor teach anyone to field that position.

At KC, I had heard that it was Haley, not Charlie that fixed the QB.

Anyway, I just think Charlie has been vastly over-rated as a QB guru. Talks a great game, just doesn't deliver.

URC, why would the college game make said observation hilarious? I must be missing something.
He had a lot of people convinced Clausen was an elite QB. Was at Florida for one year with Meyer's personnel. And there isn't a coach on the planet that is going to succeed at KU
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Old 09-18-2015, 05:05 PM   #63
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Haley would be a pretty shitty gameday coach when it comes to personnel decisions though.. as notorious has so succinctly pointed out.

If he can make whoever Pittsburgh trots out at QB look like he belongs after Roethlisberger retires, then I'll say he's a top tier-ish OC. But even then..
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Old 09-18-2015, 05:06 PM   #66
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He had a lot of people convinced Clausen was an elite QB. Was at Florida for one year with Meyer's personnel. And there isn't a coach on the planet that is going to succeed at KU
Totally agree with your last point about KU; in fact, made me laugh out loud......which, after last night's game is quite a feat. Thanks, URC!!!
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Not sure what you're referring to, notorious. As I recall, Haley didn't have much to work with; I'd love to see what he could do with this bunch though I doubt Alex is Haley's type QB.
He woulda taken Alex over Casshole every day
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Old 09-18-2015, 05:21 PM   #68
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I know, Dane, some have even suggested that Jason Avant is washed up and shouldn't be on the team. Permeates this whole board. Heck, if this place was for genius' only, it'd be a very lonely place.
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I don't get why people get so excited by coaches who yell at people or "kick some ass." Rex Ryan! Rob Ryan! YEAH! Those guys will make the team try harder. Which is funny because those guys almost always flame out fast. Meanwhile, Bill Belichick is the most successful coach of this generation, maybe ever... and he shows less than zero emotion. He makes a lamppost look like Richard Simmons.

I don't think there's any one way to do it really, but guys like the Ryans, Jim Harbaugh, Greg Schiano, Todd Haley seem to burn out fast and alienate their teams.
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