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**BigRedChief** · 10:46 PM

2011 World Series Championship
2012 NLCS. One win from another WS appearance.
2013 World Series. Two wins from another World Series Championship
2014 NLCS. Three wins from another WS appearance
2015 Clinched Central Division title and Home Field advantage in the playoffs. First team in MLB to win 100 games since 2011.

Made the postseason 11 times in the last 15 seasons.
Only 1 losing season since 2000.
Reached the World Series 4 times since 2004 and won as many championships (two) the past eight seasons as it did from 1965 to 2005.
Made the NLCS 9 times including the last 4 years 2011-2014
Three million attendance? Take it to the bank.
65 post season wins since 2004. 22+ wins more than any other team.

Jewish Rabbi · 09-25-2015, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

oh welllll up 3 with 8 to play. No way Pitt sweeps Chi this weekend.

3 games up with 8 to go we shit the bed and they played out of this world if they overtake us.

kcpasco · 09-25-2015, 09:40 PM

Does Khris Davis have like 1000 home runs against the Cards?

kcpasco · 09-25-2015, 09:54 PM

So is Waino On the active roster?

**BigRedChief** · 09-25-2015, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco

So is Waino On the active roster?

Not yet.
http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/tea...e.jsp?c_id=stl

**BigRedChief** · 09-25-2015, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

Well, looks like we found out who isn't making the playoff rotation.

Matheny says he found out about Carlos's stiffness in his shoulder a couple of days ago. Thought he had worked through the stiffness.

Carlos says the stiffness happened in the Cub series and in his bullpen session.

WTF is with the medical staff? One of your cornerstones of your pitching rotation for the next few years has pitched more innings that he ever has in his life and complaining about shoulder stiffness. How about getting an MRI before his next start?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-26-2015, 09:42 AM

Assuming the health of Yadi and Carlos:

Position Players:

1B: Piscotty
2B: Wong
SS: Peralta
3B: Carpenter
LF: Holliday
CF: Pham/Grichuk
RF: Heyward
C: Molina

Bench: Grichuk/Pham, Garcia, Adams, Cruz, Reynolds

That gives you two lefty bench bats, a backup for third besides Garcia, and right handed power off the bench. The one thing you sacrifice is speed.

If you only want one lefty on the bench, then swap Bourjos for Adams, but that's dangerous.

Pitchers:

1: Martinez
2: Lackey
3: Garcia
4: Lynn/Wacha

Pen:

Long: Lynn/Wacha
MRP: Tuivailala, Cishek, Maness
Lefty: Lyons
Setup: Siegrist
Closer: Rosenthal

Of course, that won't happen. Tui will get bumped for Broxton, who is dying to blow a playoff series, and Matheny will keep nine in the pen at the expense of his bench.

**BigRedChief** · 09-26-2015, 02:46 PM

well Martinez is out for the season. Mo shuts him down.

Carlos Martinez is done for the season, being shut down due to shoulder strain. No surgery needed. #stlcards
— Jenifer Langosch (@LangoschMLB) September 26, 2015

Swanman · 09-26-2015, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

well Martinez is out for the season. Mo shuts him down.

Carlos Martinez is done for the season, being shut down due to shoulder strain. No surgery needed. #stlcards
— Jenifer Langosch (@LangoschMLB) September 26, 2015

So they know about the ****ing shoulder stiffness two days before and those idiots decide to let him try to start the game last night.

**BigRedChief** · 09-26-2015, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Assuming the health of Yadi and Carlos:

Position Players:

1B: Piscotty
2B: Wong
SS: Peralta
3B: Carpenter
LF: Holliday
CF: Pham/Grichuk
RF: Heyward
C: Molina

Bench: Grichuk/Pham, Garcia, Adams, Cruz, Reynolds

That gives you two lefty bench bats, a backup for third besides Garcia, and right handed power off the bench. The one thing you sacrifice is speed.

If you only want one lefty on the bench, then swap Bourjos for Adams, but that's dangerous.

I like this but I just don't see any way that Matheny leaves Jay off the playoff roster. So one of those names has to come off your list.

Also I think Bourjas will be on the roster. for late defensive help and speed. We need to protect a lead in the bottom of the 8th. We need a run to break a tie late. Put him on first and hope for a gapper just like this week.

Which I can understand that approach at least over Jay. He has no business on a playoff roster.

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Pitchers:

1: Martinez
2: Lackey
3: Garcia
4: Lynn/Wacha

Pen:

Long: Lynn/Wacha
MRP: Tuivailala, Cishek, Maness
Lefty: Lyons
Setup: Siegrist
Closer: Rosenthal

Of course, that won't happen. Tui will get bumped for Broxton, who is dying to blow a playoff series, and Matheny will keep nine in the pen at the expense of his bench.

Again, I like your roster but Matheny will make sure that Broxton and Choate will both make the playoff roster.

And now with the loss of Martinez, do you need more long relief other than Lyons? We are down to 4 starters. What if we have 2 early meltdowns in a game? Even if you give up, you still have to have someone throw the innings and you don't want to turn your bullpen for the rest of the games.

**BigRedChief** · 09-26-2015, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Swanman

So they know about the ****ing shoulder stiffness two days before and those idiots decide to let him try to start the game last night.

I hope we don't lose him for most of next year too.

I don't get gambling with a young cornerstone of your pitching staff. We didn't need him to win the division or make the playoffs. He told you he was sore. Why not be cautious? And then after you saw a couple of pitches that looked awkward as hell why not pull him. Man if I was a pitcher in STL and get hurt, I'd be worried.

Baseball needs to find a way to rest these pitchers so they don't flame out before the playoffs or hurt themselves.

Swanman · 09-26-2015, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I hope we don't lose him for most of next year too.

I don't get gambling with a young cornerstone of your pitching staff. We didn't need him to win the division or make the playoffs. He told you he was sore. Why not be cautious? And then after you saw a couple of pitches that looked awkward as hell why not pull him. Man if I was a pitcher in STL and get hurt, I'd be worried.

Baseball needs to find a way to rest these pitchers so they don't flame out before the playoffs or hurt themselves.

Like I said a month or so ago, the postseason rotation would shake itself out. I didn't want it to happen like this though.

**BigRedChief** · 09-27-2015, 08:24 AM

The math looks good for us. We win today. We just have to win 1 in Pitt.

No matter if Pitt wins all their games besides the 1 against us, we just need to win 1 out of 3 in ATL to clinch.

Holliday looked good running. He has obviously got his timing back at the plate. That is going to be a big boost for our offense. Peralta is hitting again. Wong looks to be coming around. Carp is back on track. Piscotty continues to rake. I'm a helluva lot more hopeful about our offense after the last week or so.

Probable Matheny line up

Carp 3B
Piscotty 1B
Holliday LF
Peralta SS
Hayward RF
Molina C
Grichuk/Pham CF
Wong 2B
Pitcher

Lackey and Garcia start Games 1&2 at Bush due to their performance at home and recent outings. Wacha and Lynn take the road starts.

Rosey 9th
Seigriest 8th
Ciechek or if available Waino 7th
Ciechek.Waino 6th

George Liquor · 09-27-2015, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco

Does Khris Davis have like 1000 home runs against the Cards?

Qft

George Liquor · 09-27-2015, 03:04 PM

Welp. There went the division title.

Way to shit the bed in the most crucial time Rosinghausen.

kcpasco · 09-27-2015, 03:09 PM

Holy choke job

That was classic Matheny sticking with his guy no matter what. Even though the dude almost killed a guy because he had absolutely no command.

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09-25-2015, 09:40 PM	#1892
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09-26-2015, 09:42 AM	#1896
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7229572	Assuming the health of Yadi and Carlos: Position Players: 1B: Piscotty 2B: Wong SS: Peralta 3B: Carpenter LF: Holliday CF: Pham/Grichuk RF: Heyward C: Molina Bench: Grichuk/Pham, Garcia, Adams, Cruz, Reynolds That gives you two lefty bench bats, a backup for third besides Garcia, and right handed power off the bench. The one thing you sacrifice is speed. If you only want one lefty on the bench, then swap Bourjos for Adams, but that's dangerous. Pitchers: 1: Martinez 2: Lackey 3: Garcia 4: Lynn/Wacha Pen: Long: Lynn/Wacha MRP: Tuivailala, Cishek, Maness Lefty: Lyons Setup: Siegrist Closer: Rosenthal Of course, that won't happen. Tui will get bumped for Broxton, who is dying to blow a playoff series, and Matheny will keep nine in the pen at the expense of his bench.
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09-26-2015, 02:46 PM	#1897
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $-641038 VARSITY	well Martinez is out for the season. Mo shuts him down. Carlos Martinez is done for the season, being shut down due to shoulder strain. No surgery needed. #stlcards — Jenifer Langosch (@LangoschMLB) September 26, 2015 __________________ Mahomes is not a game manager. Release the Kraken.
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09-27-2015, 08:24 AM	#1902
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $-641038 VARSITY	The math looks good for us. We win today. We just have to win 1 in Pitt. No matter if Pitt wins all their games besides the 1 against us, we just need to win 1 out of 3 in ATL to clinch. Holliday looked good running. He has obviously got his timing back at the plate. That is going to be a big boost for our offense. Peralta is hitting again. Wong looks to be coming around. Carp is back on track. Piscotty continues to rake. I'm a helluva lot more hopeful about our offense after the last week or so. Probable Matheny line up Carp 3B Piscotty 1B Holliday LF Peralta SS Hayward RF Molina C Grichuk/Pham CF Wong 2B Pitcher Lackey and Garcia start Games 1&2 at Bush due to their performance at home and recent outings. Wacha and Lynn take the road starts. Rosey 9th Seigriest 8th Ciechek or if available Waino 7th Ciechek.Waino 6th __________________ Mahomes is not a game manager. Release the Kraken.
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09-27-2015, 03:09 PM	#1905
kcpasco MVP Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $6143463	Holy choke job That was classic Matheny sticking with his guy no matter what. Even though the dude almost killed a guy because he had absolutely no command. Last edited by kcpasco; 09-27-2015 at 03:32 PM..
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