Chiefs Chiefs' defense is on its way to being historically bad - Page 2

oaklandhater · 10-06-2015, 02:30 PM

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CINCINNATI -- In an effort to figure out how historically bad this year’s Kansas City Chiefs defense is trending to be, I found something it has already done that defenses run by Greg Robinson and Romeo Crennel never did.

That alone makes it bad.

The Chiefs have allowed 30 or more points in three straight games within a season for the second time in franchise history. The other time was in 1987 but that one comes with a huge asterisk. The Chiefs used replacement players during the labor strike for two of those games.

The Chiefs have allowed 321 yards passing in each of their last two games. That’s an incredible stat considering they haven’t led during either game and the opponent didn’t have to throw. The Packers and Bengals just found it so easy they didn’t want to stop.

You could say the Chiefs were ripped the last two weeks by the two top-rated quarterbacks in the league, Aaron Rodgers and Andy Dalton. That’s true, but that’s still an unusual happening in Chiefs history. They’ve allowed 321-plus passing yards in three straight games twice and 321-plus in two straight games two other times.

But it’s the points where the Chiefs are truly embarrassing themselves. They are on a pace to allow exactly 500, which would blow away the franchise record of 440, set by the 2008 Chiefs.

That team, by the way, finished 2-14.

oaklandhater · 10-06-2015, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Doubt it.

If anything, if Smith goes they'll try and trade for yet another backup QB to try and Restore the Roar or whatever ****ing stupid plan was at work in 2013 to get asses in the seats.

beside cutler being a FA maybe next year what Backup QB could the chiefs even think of getting the market is dry next year thank god.

oaklandhater · 10-06-2015, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Say hello to your top 5 pick.

Hammock Parties · 10-06-2015, 02:39 PM

I actually don't have a problem with us picking a LT if Stephenson is below average.

It's not like they're going to pick a QB anyway, so, **** it.

KC_Lee · 10-06-2015, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Doubt it.

If anything, if Smith goes they'll try and trade for yet another backup QB to try and Restore the Roar or whatever ****ing stupid plan was at work in 2013 to get asses in the seats.

Welcome to KC Colin Kappernick!!!

oaklandhater · 10-06-2015, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs

I actually don't have a problem with us picking a LT if Stephenson is below average.

It's not like they're going to pick a QB anyway, so, **** it.

I just don't see how we cant pick a QB in such a deep draft for one

Discuss Thrower · 10-06-2015, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater

beside cutler being a FA maybe next year what Backup QB could the chiefs even think of getting the market is dry next year thank god.

If Detroit craters to < 5 wins this year, *in theory* Stafford and Smith could be swapped for similar cap hits. Smith is under control for a longer period of time but Stafford has a bigger percentage of guaranteed money.

**The Franchise** · 10-06-2015, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs

I actually don't have a problem with us picking a LT if Stephenson is below average.

It's not like they're going to pick a QB anyway, so, **** it.

I'm going to be a complete asshole.

I want us to draft Jaylon Smith in the 1st round. He's everything that Manti Te'o wasn't.

We can just grab a QB like Kessler in the 2nd. Shit...I wouldn't be surprised if Hackenberg falls to the 2nd either.

oaklandhater · 10-06-2015, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee

Welcome to KC Colin Kappernick!!!

Kapernick might be the only QB in the NFL right now playing worst then smith.

oaklandhater · 10-06-2015, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

If Detroit craters to < 5 wins this year, *in theory* Stafford and Smith could be swapped for similar cap hits. Smith is under control for a longer period of time but Stafford has a bigger percentage of guaranteed money.

Getting Stafford would be ok for me there are worst fates.

Hammock Parties · 10-06-2015, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater

I just don't see how we cant pick a QB in such a deep draft for one

Because we have to fill our "support the noodle arm" needs.

Mr. Laz · 10-06-2015, 02:48 PM

Sutton needs to go back to the multiple safety zone defense he played in year 2

We have more depth at safety than we do anywhere else

The zone defense was much more effective than his man-to-man.

What would be ideal is to play some of both each game. Since Sutton can't seem to play more than one type of defense each year we need to go back to zone/stack

Discuss Thrower · 10-06-2015, 02:50 PM

The NFL is a collectively conservative organization.

If Alex Smith has such ardent defenders here and in other NFL fan discussion venues in spite of his obvious deficiencies, then you have to believe that pro personnel guys and coaches inside and outside of Kansas City think that Smith isn't the problem we know him to be. In their minds, there is more value in chasing good money after bad by investing in draft picks for the offensive line and defense and spending FA cash to receivers in order to make Smith look serviceable.

jspchief · 10-06-2015, 02:51 PM

What I want to know is why is the defense so bad? Its the same players as last year, plus Devito and DJ who are upgrades. What the **** are they doing different thats making them so terrible?

KC_Lee · 10-06-2015, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

What I want to know is why is the defense so bad? Its the same players as last year, plus Devito and DJ who are upgrades. What the **** are they doing different thats making them so terrible?

Issues with the secondary and a DC that steadfastly refuses to make any sort of adjustments based on the personnel he has at his disposal or what the opposing O is doing.

Hammock Parties · 10-06-2015, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

What I want to know is why is the defense so bad? Its the same players as last year, plus Devito and DJ who are upgrades. What the **** are they doing different thats making them so terrible?

Poe and Hali are complete garbage in the pass rush department this year.

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Discuss Thrower "You like to drink?" Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: "I like to drink." Casino cash: $-170000	The NFL is a collectively conservative organization. If Alex Smith has such ardent defenders here and in other NFL fan discussion venues in spite of his obvious deficiencies, then you have to believe that pro personnel guys and coaches inside and outside of Kansas City think that Smith isn't the problem we know him to be. In their minds, there is more value in chasing good money after bad by investing in draft picks for the offensive line and defense and spending FA cash to receivers in order to make Smith look serviceable. __________________ Chiefs 2016 Opponents: Home: JAX, TEN, NO, TB, NYJ. Away: HOU, IND, ATL, CAR, PIT Chiefs 2017 Opponents: Home: BUF, MIA, PHI, WSH, AFC North. Away: NE, NYJ, NYG, DAL, AFC South
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jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	What I want to know is why is the defense so bad? Its the same players as last year, plus Devito and DJ who are upgrades. What the **** are they doing different thats making them so terrible? __________________ Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all.
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