Chiefs Chiefs' defense is on its way to being historically bad - Page 11

oaklandhater · 10-06-2015, 02:30 PM

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CINCINNATI -- In an effort to figure out how historically bad this year’s Kansas City Chiefs defense is trending to be, I found something it has already done that defenses run by Greg Robinson and Romeo Crennel never did.

That alone makes it bad.

The Chiefs have allowed 30 or more points in three straight games within a season for the second time in franchise history. The other time was in 1987 but that one comes with a huge asterisk. The Chiefs used replacement players during the labor strike for two of those games.

The Chiefs have allowed 321 yards passing in each of their last two games. That’s an incredible stat considering they haven’t led during either game and the opponent didn’t have to throw. The Packers and Bengals just found it so easy they didn’t want to stop.

You could say the Chiefs were ripped the last two weeks by the two top-rated quarterbacks in the league, Aaron Rodgers and Andy Dalton. That’s true, but that’s still an unusual happening in Chiefs history. They’ve allowed 321-plus passing yards in three straight games twice and 321-plus in two straight games two other times.

But it’s the points where the Chiefs are truly embarrassing themselves. They are on a pace to allow exactly 500, which would blow away the franchise record of 440, set by the 2008 Chiefs.

That team, by the way, finished 2-14.

OctoberFart · 10-07-2015, 12:21 PM

I thought you guys were saying KC had one of the best D's in the league? Well they are one of the best in the league to score pts on. What happened?

ChiefsBud · 10-07-2015, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OctoberFart

I thought you guys were saying KC had one of the best D's in the league? Well they are one of the best in the league to score pts on. What happened?

That's what happens when they are always on the field!

3rd Quarter 38-10 · 10-07-2015, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsBud

That's what happens when they are always on the field!

Unfortunately that is not the problem. In the last game the Chiefs had the ball for 36:53 and the Bengals had it for 23:07. The D should have had plenty of rest.

ThaVirus · 10-07-2015, 01:30 PM

The defense has looked like absolute shit the past two weeks.

They can't defend the quick pass, long pass, intermediate pass, 3rd downs, run, and can't disrupt the passer.

Thank goodness the past two weeks were against two of the best offenses in the league. Not that you want to get manhandled in any fashion, but if that sort of shit continues against teams like the Bears and Vikings.. Well, then **** this team all to shit.

OctoberFart · 10-07-2015, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsBud

That's what happens when they are always on the field!

Well they have pretty much been on the field the same as that crap offense you have or even less.

jonzie04 · 10-07-2015, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

I said that Sutton needs to be fire. Not sure where I said that none of these guys have regressed. Feel free to go find that post though.

You quoted this post..

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

or ya know, it could be the one trick pony defensive scheme and awful coaching putting these guys in the wrong place.

I don't believe in that many good players just all magically lose their football talent and become below average/invisible in one offseason. A whole side of the ball doesn't lose their talent that quick.

With this

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

This.

Sutton is ****ing this all up.

**The Franchise** · 10-07-2015, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jonzie04

You quoted this post..

With this

Yeah.....not sure where you're seeing anything about players regressing or not there. Sutton IS ****ing this up.

jonzie04 · 10-07-2015, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Yeah.....not sure where you're seeing anything about players regressing or not there. Sutton IS ****ing this up.

The guy said in the second sentence he didn't believe that all of these guys lost their football talent in 1 season. And blamed it all on Sutton. But maybe I misinterpreted it... My apologies. I can agree with Sutton ****ing it up though in addition to Poe, DJ, Berry, and Hali all majorly regressing.

keg in kc · 10-07-2015, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee

Paging Eric Hicks...please pick up the red & yellow courtesy phone for an urgent message...

If you paged him back in 2008, then he should finally make it to the qb one of these weeks.

**Easy 6** · 10-07-2015, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

The defense has looked like absolute shit the past two weeks.

They can't defend the quick pass, long pass, intermediate pass, 3rd downs, run, and can't disrupt the passer.

Thank goodness the past two weeks were against two of the best offenses in the league. Not that you want to get manhandled in any fashion, but if that sort of shit continues against teams like the Bears and Vikings.. Well, then **** this team all to shit.

Considering their accomplishments the last two years, it shouldn't be happening against ANY team... I mean NO ONE expected them to look like this, not the Planet nor anyone else that closely follows pro football.

Sutton hasn't adjusted well the last two years, but it never caused this D to get curbstomped like it has lately.

We know whats wrong on offense, but figuring out what happened to the defense is much harder.

Discuss Thrower · 10-07-2015, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

If you paged him back in 2008, then he should finally make it to the qb one of these weeks.

Unless the QB runs on a bootleg.

**Rausch** · 10-07-2015, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

We know whats wrong on offense, but figuring out what happened to the defense is much harder.

What happened on defense is that every HC knows the pass rush is coming and you have to game plan to get rid of the ball quickly.

After that you target our 3rd CB all day long...

RunKC · 10-07-2015, 07:13 PM

3rd and 4.

Sutton puts the best pass rusher in the NFL in coverage. Inexcusable.

Gio blitz pickup https://t.co/eSDAEKOvDO
— Joe Goodberry (@JoeGoodberry) October 5, 2015

**Rausch** · 10-07-2015, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

3rd and 4.

Sutton puts the best pass rusher in the NFL in coverage. Inexcusable.

He's solid in coverage.

The fact that he has range is a good thing...

EDIT: More importantly THAT is how a HB should pick up the blitz!

milkman · 10-07-2015, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

He's solid in coverage.

The fact that he has range is a good thing...

EDIT: More importantly THAT is how a HB should pick up the blitz!

Charles is a damn good blocker, but it's on the QB to make the read and get him into position to pick up the blitz.

How many times do we see Charles on the wrong side to pick up the blitz?

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