Royals my phone died last night while I was in a Ned Yost fit of rage

**DeezNutz** · 10-24-2015, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Why would anyone doubt Ned ****ing yost at this point.

Results?

If Madson holds the fort, Yost is proven "right," though the decision would have still been wrong. But this obviously didn't happen. Team bailed Yost out on a fireable offense.

**SAUTO** · 10-24-2015, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Results?

If Madson holds the fort, Yost is proven "right," though the decision would have still been wrong. But this obviously didn't happen. Team bailed Yost out on a fireable offense.

This team seems to NEED somone to bail out. They love it. They love to band together and help make up for someone's mistake.

They need Ned Yost. And I like to think he knows it and does it on purpose.

I mean, it's the only explanation, right?

splatbass · 10-24-2015, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Results?

If Madson holds the fort, Yost is proven "right," though the decision would have still been wrong. But this obviously didn't happen. Team bailed Yost out on a fireable offense.

Fireable? Really?

Two World Series. Enough said.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-24-2015, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

Fireable? Really?

Two World Series. Enough said.

You obviously don't remember the Whitey Herzog era.

He won multiple titles but could never get over the hump. Once he was fired, the Royals were in the World Series the following year and won it a few years later.

Sometimes, the talent covers the mistakes of the manager.

splatbass · 10-24-2015, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You obviously don't remember the Whitey Herzog era.

I remember it very well.

The hyperbole here is over the top ridiculous. Two years ago no one thought there was any shot of going to the WS anytime soon. Now we have done it two years in a row and people are still wanting to fire the manager.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-24-2015, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

I remember it very well.

The hyperbole here is over the top ridiculous. Two years ago no one thought there was any shot of going to the WS anytime soon. Now we have done it two years in a row and people are still wanting to fire the manager.

Firing Ned is definitely a bit strong but it's also possible that once Ned retires (which is supposedly is going to happen after the World Series), the Royals might actually improve.

It's also possible that they fall apart but I don't think that's likely, especially if they hire someone with a very high baseball acumen and not a newbie.

splatbass · 10-24-2015, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Firing Ned is definitely a bit strong but it's also possible that once Ned retires (which is supposedly is going to happen after the World Series), the Royals might actually improve.

It's also possible that they fall apart but I don't think that's likely, especially if they hire someone with a very high baseball acumen and not a newbie.

Just allow yourself to enjoy success, you don't have to be negative all the time. World Series are hard to come by, enjoy it while you can. Cubs fans would love to be where we are, yet CP is whining.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-24-2015, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

Just allow yourself to enjoy success, you don't have to be negative all the time. World Series are hard to come by, enjoy it while you can. Cubs fans would love to be where we are, yet CP is whining.

Oh, I'm enjoying it and I'm not negative but it can be very frustrating at times due to Ned's decisions.

Also, I watch with the volume off, which helps me to enjoy it exponentially more than listening to Joe Buck.

Lex Luthor · 10-24-2015, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You obviously don't remember the Whitey Herzog era.

He won multiple titles but could never get over the hump. Once he was fired, the Royals were in the World Series the following year and won it a few years later.

Sometimes, the talent covers the mistakes of the manager.

Sorry, I cannot let that statement go unchallenged. Whitey Herzog was a helluva manager. He took a young team to 3 straight division titles, and they lost to Yankee teams that were simply better. The team finished in second place in 1979, and Kauffman fired Herzog because Muriel Kauffman didn't like him. That was the only really bad decision Ewing Kauffman ever made.

If Herzog was such a bad manager, how was he able to transform the Cardinals from a mediocre team into a team that he took to multiple World Series?

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-24-2015, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac

Sorry, I cannot let that statement go unchallenged. Whitey Herzog was a helluva manager. He took a young team to 3 straight division titles, and they lost to Yankee teams that were simply better. The team finished in second place in 1979, and Kauffman fired Herzog because Muriel Kauffman didn't like him. That was the only really bad decision Ewing Kauffman ever made.

If Herzog was such a bad manager, how was he able to transform the Cardinals from a mediocre team into a team that he took to multiple World Series?

I never, ever said that Herzog was a "bad" manager.

But it was clearly time for a change and the following season was proof.

For a guy named "Brainiac", you continually prove that...oh well, **** it.

It's been said enough times.

Lex Luthor · 10-24-2015, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I never, ever said that Herzog was a "bad" manager.

But it was clearly time for a change and the following season was proof.

For a guy named "Brainiac", you continually prove that...oh well, **** it.

It's been said enough times.

That's a load of horseshit. Yes, you did. Don't try to backtrack now just because you just realized how stupid your original statement was.

Whitey Herzog managed the Royals from 1975 to 1979. He took over a losing team in with 66 games left in the 1975 season, and he led them to a 41-25 record. Then in his first 3 full seasons his teams won the first three division championships in club history. They lost in the playoffs to Yankee teams that were simply better than them. In his 4th full season the team finished in second place with a record of 85-77, and he was fired because Muriel Kauffman had a major personality conflict with him.

That was NOT a situation where it was time for a change. Only a ****ing moron would draw that conclusion. It's not a surprise that YOU drew that conclusion.

I gave you a polite response and you responded in your typical asshole manner. The thing is, I get it. Your whole Internet persona is based upon trying to be a tough guy and responding with anger and insults whenever anybody dares to disagree with you. But your act has grown so stale that nobody really gives a shit. You're the yapping chihuahua that annoys everybody but scares nobody.

This was a better forum when you left "forever". It will be a better forum when you leave "forever" again.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-24-2015, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac

That was NOT a situation where it was time for a change. Only a ****ing moron would draw that conclusion. It's not a surprise that YOU drew that conclusion.

Everyone involved came to that conclusion.

Duh.

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Originally Posted by Brainiac

This was a better forum when you left "forever". It will be a better forum when you leave "forever" again.

Butthurt from a moron.

How original.

Pitt Gorilla · 10-24-2015, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Results?

If Madson holds the fort, Yost is proven "right," though the decision would have still been wrong. But this obviously didn't happen. Team bailed Yost out on a fireable offense.

I suppose, but Ned's reasoning wasn't horrible. Davis was very ill. Ned didn't want to have to pitch him on both sides of a rain delay. Of course, he ended up doing just that and it worked, but his reasoning wasn't completely insane.