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Old 11-02-2015, 05:48 PM  
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Best I can figure its :

Cueto
Zobrist
Hosmer
Rios
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Madson
Morales
Young

Some pretty good names on there. Bring back Cueto, Zobrist and Hosmer. Rios can be replaced ,he's 34 and making almost 10 mil a year.

Thoughts ?
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Old 11-03-2015, 01:43 PM   #61
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That's fine. But IMO, the Royals should resign Gordon, Zobrist and Young, then recoup any losses with their new TV deal.

If Ned returns, this team has a two year window at minimum to return to the ALCS if not the World Series.
Gordon is a tough one for me (of course i'm an outsider so grain of salt). So much of his value is defensively based, and as he ages thats not going to improve only decline.

Zobrist is somewhat similar in that his decline can't be too far off.

I don't think the Royals get close to or should get close to 100 mil for Gordon. He's been a great Royal, but if thats the case, take the pick and look elsewhere.

Tough offseason
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Old 11-03-2015, 01:44 PM   #62
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What's so great about Hosmer? He's never made an ASG, he was 9th/20 qualifiers in fWAR among all 1B. He was 12th in wRC+. He's a fine player but he's about a average among all 1B and his hitting profile (extreme ground balls and no walks) isn't improving. He will have to get better to be priced out of here
I kind of feel the same way with Moose.
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Old 11-03-2015, 01:44 PM   #63
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Looking ahead some questions loom.

The Royals should extend Holland now with a Medlen-style deal with team or mutual options on the end.
The Royals should be talking with Moose and Hosmer in anticipation of the new TV deal lining up with their 2018 Free Agency.
The Royals should look at extending Zobrist and Gordon on acceptable terms.
The Royals should look at trading Infante as a salary dump.
The Royals can add years to Sal's deal and make him a Royal for life. The thing is, he will be 29 at the end of his current deal and you must consider the physical toll of the catcher position and price accordingly.
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If the Royals do extend Gordon and Zobrist, how do they address right field and the open rotation spot? What about rotation depth?
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Old 11-03-2015, 01:48 PM   #65
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Gordon is a tough one for me (of course i'm an outsider so grain of salt). So much of his value is defensively based, and as he ages thats not going to improve only decline.

Zobrist is somewhat similar in that his decline can't be too far off.

I don't think the Royals get close to or should get close to 100 mil for Gordon. He's been a great Royal, but if thats the case, take the pick and look elsewhere.

Tough offseason
Is there talk of Zobrist or Gordon getting anywhere near $100? 5/75 is a fair deal for Gordon to stay in KC.
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If the Royals do extend Gordon and Zobrist, how do they address right field and the open rotation spot? What about rotation depth?
At some point, you've gotta rely on the guys in house, no?

I'd take my pick of Gordon OR Zobrist and take the other money and go get another starter. Or atleast entertain that option.
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Old 11-03-2015, 01:50 PM   #67
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FG crowd sourcing chat suggests 4/70 Zo and 5/100 Gordon. And they are normally a bit low.
I'm assuming FG is fangraphs, who is generally fairly accurate here.
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Old 11-03-2015, 01:55 PM   #68
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Yes but it also means he can say accept it and basically have a 1/14.5 deal
He'd be stupid to take that, someone will pay him well.
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Old 11-03-2015, 01:56 PM   #69
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At some point, you've gotta rely on the guys in house, no?

I'd take my pick of Gordon OR Zobrist and take the other money and go get another starter. Or atleast entertain that option.
In house candidates could fill the rotation in late '16.
In right field, unless Starling continues to light the world on fire, we have a pretty bare cupboard in the OF.
Going back to Infante at second is simply unacceptable to me. Colon proved adequate as a utility type, but not in a starting capacity. We do have RA Mondesi coming up, but he realistically needs to start 2016 at AA.
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If Alex Gordon's injury this year taught him anything, it will be the value of guaranteed money. If he had been unable to return, it would have cost him millions just due to the timing.

He will not be focused on the rate as much as he will the total dollars, which is why he will not exercise the option. 12-14/year maybe totally acceptable to him, provided he is guaranteed like 70 million or whatever.
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goodbye Rios, hello Zobrist

would like to keep Young as well, he shouldn't be too expensive

Madson can stay but is replaceable
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Looking ahead some questions loom.

The Royals should extend Holland now with a Medlen-style deal with team or mutual options on the end.
The Royals should be talking with Moose and Hosmer in anticipation of the new TV deal lining up with their 2018 Free Agency.
The Royals should look at extending Zobrist and Gordon on acceptable terms.
The Royals should look at trading Infante as a salary dump.
The Royals can add years to Sal's deal and make him a Royal for life. The thing is, he will be 29 at the end of his current deal and you must consider the physical toll of the catcher position and price accordingly.
You know how I know that you do not know that much about baseball?
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You know how I know that you do not know that much about baseball?
You can trade Infante and get someone to eat half his salary. It's better than his 8M/year ass sitting on the bench.
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You can trade Infante and get someone to eat half his salary. It's better than his 8M/year ass sitting on the bench.
No one is going to pay even half his salary.
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Is Hosmer really worth a big money deal?

I know he's developing his clutch hitting but most of the time he's more about defense than hitting.

*ducks and runs from the Royal's homers*
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