DAT placed on injured reserve

[pugsnotdrugs19]

https://twitter.com/adamschefter/sta...77999670550529

Wow....

Gotta wonder if he's considering retirement honestly. If this truly stems from concussion, he must have gotten completely effed up.

Best wishes.

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

and size is directly related with what's surrounding it( the brain, hence helmets) too. As I said before in comparison to an adult and a child.

I don't think you understand exactly how concussions work. The brain is soft tissue - the skull surrounding it is hard. If a force is strong enough to "smack" the brain against the skull then you have a concussion. It doesn't matter if you hit your head or not. Concussions can occur from the force of a car accident where a vehicle comes to a sudden stop in one direction. Bomb blasts are another great example. What surrounds the head doesn't necessarily help with mitigating concussions. The helmets help with preventing physical injury and tend to lessen the impact of uni-directional forces, but a multi-direction force can still cause a terrible concussion even if you are wearing a mattress on your head.

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

This is not true.

Although the same force is delivered to a reinforced concrete wall and a rabbit when you hit it with your car at 50 mph, one is demolished while the other demolishes you.

On top of that, an individual with a smaller mass has lower momentum when traveling at the same velocity as a more massive individual. They are easier to decelerate, and when their body is decelerated, their brain smashes at their former velocity against the front of their skull and then rebounds against the back of their skull.

That would be a great analogy if our brains were separated into "rabbit" and "concrete wall" categories.

This is a terrible example - it's all about the brain - that is what you aren't getting, a 400 lb muscular linebacker has the same brain construction as a 120 lb scrawny kicker - if either one takes a 50 mph to zero in less than a second impact on their brain it doesn't matter what size their body is it will still be a concussion.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by stevieray

When you have rebuttal, try again.

There's no need for a rebuttal, your post makes no contextual sense.

But keep trying

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by stevieray

Except that the smaller guy holds the highest YPC in NFL history.

You have no point.

Your point was that Sproles, Thomas, and Hall were the same size. They are not.

Now, you've deflected to talking about productivity, which was never part of the discussion.

Stay on topic.

[DaNewGuy]

No more Hammond

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Your point was that Sproles, Thomas, and Hall were the same size. They are not.

Now, you've deflected to talking about productivity, which was never part of the discussion.

Stay on topic.

No, my point is that smaller guys make it in the NFL.

Productivity aside, he's 15 -20 lbs lighter, yet can still get the job done.

Stay on point.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by stevieray

Except that the "smaller" guy holds the highest YPC in NFL history.

You have no point.

much smaller..

And gets hurt every other year.

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by DaFace

And gets hurt every other year.

Hey, I'll buy that the smaller guys get bodily injuries (knees, ankles, hands etc) at a higher rate than bigger guys ...

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by -King-

In what way was that hit illegal? Or a spear?

In reference to the NCAA rule on targeting [not the rule in NFL, but instructive].

Risk of a foul is high with one or more of these:

Launch—a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make contact in the head or neck area
A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with contact at the head or neck area—even though one or both feet are still on the ground
Leading with helmet, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with contact at the head or neck area
Lowering the head before attacking by initiating contact with the crown of the helmet

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by DaFace

And gets hurt every other year.

There are players at every size and every position that struggle with injuries.

Geez dude, it's a BRAIN injury. Have at least a bit of compassion.

He's an exciting player, who has already shown he can take it to the house, and you guys act like he's a peasant worker.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by stevieray

I tripped and fell and she got pregnant.

Dude was speared. On purpose.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...arge/77416928/

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by DenverChief

That would be a great analogy if our brains were separated into "rabbit" and "concrete wall" categories.

This is a terrible example - it's all about the brain - that is what you aren't getting, a 400 lb muscular linebacker has the same brain construction as a 120 lb scrawny kicker - if either one takes a 50 mph to zero in less than a second impact on their brain it doesn't matter what size their body is it will still be a concussion.

This is not true, either.

Impulse equals the change in momentum.

F*∆t=m∆v

So, let's say that De'Anthony Thomas is running at his average speed during a 40, of 8.89 m/s

He weighs 80 kg.

F*∆t=80*8.89= 711.2 Newtons

Now, let's take Adrian Peterson, whose average speed during a 40 is 9.09 m/s and weighs 100 kilos

F*∆t=100*9.09=909 Newtons

Thus, you need to apply a force that is almost 30 percent greater to stop Peterson than Thomas.

But, let's say that a MLB is bearing down on both of them.

Luke Kuechly is 108 kilos and ran at an average speed of 8.73 m/s

He can deliver 943 Newtons of force.

So, what happens if both were running head on into each other?

943*∆t= 711.2; ∆t=.754

943*∆t=909; ∆t=.963

De'Anthony Thomas experience a much greater negative acceleration (deceleration) than does Peterson. Thus, his brain hits the front of his head with much greater force than Peterson, which increases the chances of injury.

Tl;Dr version? You're completely wrong.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by stevieray

No, my point is that smaller guys make it in the NFL.

Productivity aside, he's 15 -20 lbs lighter, yet can still get the job done.

Stay on point.

I wasn't the one who changed the topic.

Moreover, guys like Lynch are significantly more durable than players like Charles, both within a season and from season to season.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Moreover, guys like Lynch are significantly more durable than players like Charles, both within a season and from season to season.

Every player is one play away from not being "durable".

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by stevieray

Every player is one play away from not being "durable".

Of course soft tissue injuries, like ligament tears, can happen to everyone. No one denied that; but there is a reason why OL weigh 300 pounds and not 220, and why RBs that weigh 220 last longer and can carry the ball more than those who weigh 195.