DAT placed on injured reserve

[milkman]

Originally Posted by -King-

1 player has been on the practice squad or worse his whole career. One player has been on NFL rosters for almost a decade. One of them is clearly better than the other. Wonder who.... Hmmm... tough one.

2009.
One RB is sitting on the bench.
Another RB is the starter and and featured back, and has been for nearly 4 years.
One of them is clearly better than the other.
Wonder who......Hmmm.....tough one.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by milkman

2009.
One RB is sitting on the bench.
Another RB is the starter and and featured back, and has been for nearly 4 years.
One of them is clearly better than the other.
Wonder who......Hmmm.....tough one.

Yeah, clearly Fred Williams is Jamaal Charles. Yeah, the guy who has been a pro for the past 4 years and has seen 0 regular season action is clearly as good and has as much potential as Jamaal Charles did in 2009.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by -King-

Yeah, clearly Fred Williams is Jamaal Charles. Yeah, the guy who has been a pro for the past 4 years and has seen 0 regular season action is clearly as good and has as much potential as Jamaal Charles did in 2009.

The point, dipshit, which you are clearly too ****ing stupid to grasp, is that there are times when a better player isn't given the chance because coaches let experience and relationships get in the way of actual evaluation.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by milkman

The point, dipshit, which you are clearly too ****ing stupid to grasp, is that there are times when a better player isn't given the chance because coaches let experience and relationships get in the way of actual evaluation.

And that guy isn't Fred Williams who has been a pro since 2011 and clearly isn't good enough to actually make an NFL roster. Comparing him to a 3rd round pick who was great in Texas and who made the actual NFL roster in his first season is absurd.

Some guys just suck and aren't good enough. Fred Williams is that guy. It's not a conspiracy to keep him on the PS. He just plain isn't good enough to be on a roster.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by -King-

Yeah, clearly Fred Williams is Jamaal Charles. Yeah, the guy who has been a pro for the past 4 years and has seen 0 regular season action is clearly as good and has as much potential as Jamaal Charles did in 2009.

You don't understand the concept. You only see A=B

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

You don't understand the concept. You only see A=B

I understand the concept. But stop comparing Fred Williams to guys who are CLEARLY better than him. He's a guy from St ****ing Cloud State University (where?), has been a pro for 4 years and is just now sniffing the practice squad for the first time this year. Comparing him to guys like Jamaal Charles and James Harrison is a joke. By their 4th years, they were playing in actual NFL games and were actually good.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by -King-

I understand the concept. But stop comparing Fred Williams to guys who are CLEARLY better than him. He's a guy from St ****ing Cloud State University (where?), has been a pro for 4 years and is just now sniffing the practice squad for the first time this year. Comparing him to guys like Jamaal Charles and James Harrison is a joke. By their 4th years, they were playing in actual NFL games and were actually good.

No one is comparing player player.
We are comparng situations.

When I tell you that Kurt Warner was a 27 year old, who had 4 years professional experience before he got his opportunity with the Rams, and he was clearly better than Trent Green, I am not saying that Fred Williams would have a potential HoF career if given the opportunity.

I am only saying that he might well be clearly better than Jason Avant.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by milkman

No one is comparing player player.
We are comparng situations.

When I tell you that Kurt Warner was a 27 year old, who had 4 years professional experience before he got his opportunity with the Rams, and he was clearly better than Trent Green, I am not saying that Fred Williams would have a potential HoF career if given the opportunity.

I am only saying that he might well be clearly better than Jason Avant.

Theres a slim chance chance you're right. But most likely, Fred Williams will end his career with the same number of catches he started with. And it won't be because of a conspiracy to keep him on the practice squad and out of the league. It's because he's not good enough to play in the NFL. You can literally make the Kurt Warner comparison about any 27 year old player who hasn't done shit in the league. More realistically though, Fred Williams is closer to a player who's best ever accomplishment is making a practice squad for a year or two.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by -King-

Theres a slim chance chance you're right. But most likely, Fred Williams will end his career with the same number of catches he started with. And it won't be because of a conspiracy to keep him on the practice squad and out of the league. It's because he's not good enough to play in the NFL. You can literally make the Kurt Warner comparison about any 27 year old player who hasn't done shit in the league. More realistically though, Fred Williams is closer to a player who's best ever accomplishment is making a practice squad for a year or two.

No one is calling it a conspiracy.

Coaches sometimes make personnel decisions based on experience, trust, and loyalty, and many times those decisions are wrong.

I don't know what Fred Williams might ever do in his career, but I have a difficult time believing that he couldn't match 13 catches for 104 yards.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by -King-

I understand the concept. But stop comparing Fred Williams to guys who are CLEARLY better than him. He's a guy from St ****ing Cloud State University (where?), has been a pro for 4 years and is just now sniffing the practice squad for the first time this year. Comparing him to guys like Jamaal Charles and James Harrison is a joke. By their 4th years, they were playing in actual NFL games and were actually good.

I'm comparing situations not player for player. No one compared him to play wise to those guys. It's about the situation.