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Old 12-31-2015, 03:43 PM  
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DAT placed on injured reserve
https://twitter.com/adamschefter/sta...77999670550529

Wow....

Gotta wonder if he's considering retirement honestly. If this truly stems from concussion, he must have gotten completely effed up.

Best wishes.
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Old 01-01-2016, 02:20 PM   #241
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He has every right to quit the game, but he better give alot of his signing bonus back if he does.
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Old 01-01-2016, 02:23 PM   #242
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This DAT thing makes me uneasy.

With Hammond back there, I can just feel Kyle Williams Part Deux happening to Alex again.
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Old 01-01-2016, 02:38 PM   #243
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This DAT thing makes me uneasy.

With Hammond back there, I can just feel Kyle Williams Part Deux happening to Alex again.
This Hammond thing is Andy Reid "liking" a player imo.

They would have found another returner by now if it wasn't.
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Old 01-01-2016, 02:40 PM   #244
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He has every right to quit the game, but he better give alot of his signing bonus back if he does.


What? You're going to make a guy give back $100k or whatever for retiring due to a severe concussion? The Chiefs will save more than $600k against the cap by making him a Post June 1st designation.

I swear, you grow dumber with each post.
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Old 01-01-2016, 02:42 PM   #245
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This DAT thing makes me uneasy.

With Hammond back there, I can just feel Kyle Williams Part Deux happening to Alex again.
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This Hammond thing is Andy Reid "liking" a player imo.

They would have found another returner by now if it wasn't.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with Hammond as a punt returner.

As a matter of fact, his numbers would be elite if he were allowed to return a full season.

He's still a young guy with plenty of upside. Those are the types of guys I've wanted for the Chiefs going back to Marty's days.

Draft, sign, develop.

**** the old guys like Avant, who hasn't done shit this season, as I projected, other than to take away snaps from guys like Conley.
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Old 01-01-2016, 02:49 PM   #246
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What? You're going to make a guy give back $100k or whatever for retiring due to a severe concussion? The Chiefs will save more than $600k against the cap by making him a Post June 1st designation.

I swear, you grow dumber with each post.
Of course they will save money because they wonr have to pay DAT anymore, but now they unexpectedly do not have a returner and a player of his skillset. So, absolutely he should be required to give back a prorated part of his signing bonus, however large or small that was.
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Old 01-01-2016, 02:55 PM   #247
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Of course they will save money because they wonr have to pay DAT anymore, but now they unexpectedly do not have a returner and a player of his skillset. So, absolutely he should be required to give back a prorated part of his signing bonus, however large or small that was.
Bullshit.

That's not how you treat NFL players, especially those that experience concussion symptoms for four weeks or more.

Do you live under a rock?
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Old 01-01-2016, 03:02 PM   #248
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There's absolutely nothing wrong with Hammond as a punt returner.

As a matter of fact, his numbers would be elite if he were allowed to return a full season.

He's still a young guy with plenty of upside. Those are the types of guys I've wanted for the Chiefs going back to Marty's days.

Draft, sign, develop.

**** the old guys like Avant, who hasn't done shit this season, as I projected, other than to take away snaps from guys like Conley.
This is were stats don't count as much as watching the game.

Hammond looks like he is ready to implode. He looks scared and unsure of himself. Maybe he gets over it or maybe he fumbles and ****s us over.

Personally i would rather have a viable option on the roster because Hammond scares the crap out of me.
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Old 01-01-2016, 03:04 PM   #249
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We need someone now, before the playoffs.

We don't want Hammond to implode in the PO and we're sitting there with no option other than Maclin.
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This is were stats don't count as much as watching the game.

Hammond likes like he is ready to implode. He looks scared and unsure of himself. Maybe he gets over it or maybe he fumbles and ****s us over.

Personally i would rather have a viable option on the roster because Hammond scares the crap out of me.
Huh, outside of his first game this season, I haven't seen him that way.
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Of course they will save money because they wonr have to pay DAT anymore, but now they unexpectedly do not have a returner and a player of his skillset. So, absolutely he should be required to give back a prorated part of his signing bonus, however large or small that was.
Your a ****ing moron. The signing bonus is the only portion of his salary that is guaranteed. He shouldn't have to pay any of it back under any circumstances.
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What? You're going to make a guy give back $100k or whatever for retiring due to a severe concussion? The Chiefs will save more than $600k against the cap by making him a Post June 1st designation.

I swear, you grow dumber with each post.
I haven't been following this thread. Is this official? Have the personal reasons for being placed on IR been explained? Is he retiring because of them? Or is there still no definitive explanation?
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He has every right to quit the game, but he better give alot of his signing bonus back if he does.
Can't have it both ways. If contracts aren't guaranteed, then you can't go trying to reclaim signing bonuses. Do that and the next CBA will demand guaranteed contracts.
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Theres a slim chance chance you're right. But most likely, Fred Williams will end his career with the same number of catches he started with. And it won't be because of a conspiracy to keep him on the practice squad and out of the league. It's because he's not good enough to play in the NFL. You can literally make the Kurt Warner comparison about any 27 year old player who hasn't done shit in the league. More realistically though, Fred Williams is closer to a player who's best ever accomplishment is making a practice squad for a year or two.
No one is calling it a conspiracy.

Coaches sometimes make personnel decisions based on experience, trust, and loyalty, and many times those decisions are wrong.

I don't know what Fred Williams might ever do in his career, but I have a difficult time believing that he couldn't match 13 catches for 104 yards.
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