Football The Super Bowl was rigged... - Page 18

B2chiefsfan · 02-07-2016, 09:32 PM

That is all...

beach tribe · 02-08-2016, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

Yeah, I'm a firm believer that bias exists in the league for sure. I just think it's unlikely that the league is literally rigging games with the specific goal of making one team or the other win.

I think it's pretty obvious that calls are biased and you have to overcome it. Nothing new.

But it's not rigged. It's a $B conspiracy that would be completely impossible to keep under wraps.

A guy like Terrel Owens would have blown the whistle for the attention alone.

Toby Waller · 02-08-2016, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

I think it's pretty obvious that calls are biased and you have to overcome it. Nothing new.

But it's not rigged. It's a $B conspiracy that would be completely impossible to keep under wraps.

A guy like Terrel Owens would have blown the whistle for the attention alone.

how do you know he wasnt paid to act that way?
who the hell keeps a pen in their sock unless he knows he's scoring on prime time tv?
its called acting.

B2chiefsfan · 02-09-2016, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

Los Alamos?

Albuquerque...

Mile High Mania · 02-09-2016, 08:59 AM

Pretty decent read on the game and that 'catch, not a catch' thing with Cotchery. I think it could have gone either way, but here's a close up.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/clu...-super-bowl-50

"We have seen worse efforts ruled complete, and better efforts ruled incomplete. This looks like the nose of the ball is touching the ground, so you could say the ground is helping him secure the catch. Add in some slight movement after he brings it up, and that was probably enough for the officials to stay with the call on the field."

Amnorix · 02-09-2016, 09:01 AM

1. The Super Bowl was not rigged.

2. The catch/not a catch was an amazingly close call. It was ruled incomplete on the field, and I didn't see IRREFUTABLE evidence that it was a catch. I saw alot of really close calls and after watchign it several times even I wasn't 100% sure that it was/wasn't a catch. And if you're not 100% sure, you're not suppose to overturn the call.

3. I hate Denver too, but JFC, this place and some people.

stevieray · 02-09-2016, 09:31 AM

Super Bowl L

..fitting.

**Dartgod** · 02-09-2016, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

1. The Super Bowl was not rigged.

2. The catch/not a catch was an amazingly close call. It was ruled incomplete on the field, and I didn't see IRREFUTABLE evidence that it was a catch. I saw alot of really close calls and after watchign it several times even I wasn't 100% sure that it was/wasn't a catch. And if you're not 100% sure, you're not suppose to overturn the call.

Maybe I am not remembering it correctly, but wasn't the result of the replay "call on the field confirmed"? That means they found conclusive evidence that the pass was incomplete.

lcarus · 02-09-2016, 09:35 AM

I don't know if anything was "rigged", but the Broncos got more breaks this year than anyone I can remember. Most wins in games decided by 7 pts or less in history, and in many of those games they got some kind of huge break or many huge breaks. But heck, luck does play a part in the game to a degree, and they had it in spades. Could've easily been 8-8 and missed the playoffs entirely.

rabblerouser · 02-09-2016, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Rigged is such a strong word... It'

However, it is an incredibly apt word.

Amnorix · 02-09-2016, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod

Maybe I am not remembering it correctly, but wasn't the result of the replay "call on the field confirmed"? That means they found conclusive evidence that the pass was incomplete.

Yes, that is what he said, but you're misinterpreting what the statement means. They don't need to "find conclusive evidence that the pass was incomplete". They need to find conclusive evidence the OTHER way, or else IT IS CONFIRMED.

There are only two outcomes -- confirmed and overturned. You don't find evidence to confirm. You DO confirm unless you find indisputable evidence to overturn.

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A decision will be reversed only when the Referee has indisputable visual evidence available to him that warrants the change.

http://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/...lebook/#rule15

**DaFace** · 02-09-2016, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

3. I hate Denver too, but JFC, this place and some people.

I think you'd agree that I'm one of the more logical ones around here, but I think it's easy for you to roll your eyes when you've rooted for a team like yours rather than ours.

We are a team that has historically valued players who are genuinely good guys and play a role not only on the field, but also in the community. Our team is the best in the league at not getting into trouble for questionable activities, and our players rarely take cheap shots at opposing players, nor do our coaches try to find loopholes in the rules to take advantage of (e.g., Shanahan's last-second timeout before a field goal kick, for example).

It's really tough for us to look at other teams like the Broncos and Patriots who have been punished by the league multiple times for questionable activity and whose players do things like Talib and admit to intentionally trying to hurt guys and see that those teams seem to be the ones that win.

We're a midwestern fanbase that values nice guys, and it's really hard for us to basically be told over and over again that, if our team is ever going to compete, they're going to have to learn to cheat a little.

**Dartgod** · 02-09-2016, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Yes, that is what he said, but you're misinterpreting what the statement means. They don't need to "find conclusive evidence that the pass was incomplete". They need to find conclusive evidence the OTHER way, or else IT IS CONFIRMED.

There are only two outcomes -- confirmed and overturned. You don't find evidence to confirm. You DO confirm unless you find indisputable evidence to overturn.

http://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/...lebook/#rule15

You sure about that? I'm sure I've heard them announce calls that are not overturned two different ways.

"The call on the field stands"
"The call on the field is confirmed"

The first one meaning that there was not conclusive evidence to overturn.

**DaFace** · 02-09-2016, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod

You sure about that? I'm sure I've heard them announce calls that are not overturned two different ways.

"The call on the field stands"
"The call on the field is confirmed"

The first one meaning that there was not conclusive evidence to overturn.

Yeah, "stands" and "confirmed" are technically different. That said, I believe they called it "stands" in this case.

EDIT: Yep.

(7:23) (Shotgun) 1-C.Newton pass incomplete deep middle to 82-J.Cotchery (26-D.Stewart). Carolina challenged the incomplete pass ruling, and the play was Upheld. The ruling on the field stands. (Timeout #1 at 07:16.)

Compare that to:

(3:13) 22-C.Anderson up the middle for 2 yards, TOUCHDOWN. The Replay Official reviewed the runner broke the plane ruling, and the play was Upheld. The ruling on the field was confirmed.

Pasta Little Brioni · 02-09-2016, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

1. The Super Bowl was not rigged.

2. The catch/not a catch was an amazingly close call. It was ruled incomplete on the field, and I didn't see IRREFUTABLE evidence that it was a catch. I saw alot of really close calls and after watchign it several times even I wasn't 100% sure that it was/wasn't a catch. And if you're not 100% sure, you're not suppose to overturn the call.

3. I hate Denver too, but JFC, this place and some people.

You have a golden boy the league sweeps things under the rug for. Of course you don't understand.

Garcia Bronco · 02-09-2016, 11:21 AM

Cotchery's attempt a catch was great, but the ball hit the ground and popped out. That's IN-COM-PLETE!

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Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $967229	Pretty decent read on the game and that 'catch, not a catch' thing with Cotchery. I think it could have gone either way, but here's a close up. http://www.footballoutsiders.com/clu...-super-bowl-50 "We have seen worse efforts ruled complete, and better efforts ruled incomplete. This looks like the nose of the ball is touching the ground, so you could say the ground is helping him secure the catch. Add in some slight movement after he brings it up, and that was probably enough for the officials to stay with the call on the field." __________________
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Amnorix In BB I trust Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boston, Mass. Casino cash: $10029808	1. The Super Bowl was not rigged. 2. The catch/not a catch was an amazingly close call. It was ruled incomplete on the field, and I didn't see IRREFUTABLE evidence that it was a catch. I saw alot of really close calls and after watchign it several times even I wasn't 100% sure that it was/wasn't a catch. And if you're not 100% sure, you're not suppose to overturn the call. 3. I hate Denver too, but JFC, this place and some people. __________________ "I love signature blocks on the Internet. I get to put whatever the hell I want in quotes, pick a pretend author, and bang, it's like he really said it." George Washington
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lcarus Everybody Lies. Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: 22 Acacia Avenue Casino cash: $-1879887	I don't know if anything was "rigged", but the Broncos got more breaks this year than anyone I can remember. Most wins in games decided by 7 pts or less in history, and in many of those games they got some kind of huge break or many huge breaks. But heck, luck does play a part in the game to a degree, and they had it in spades. Could've easily been 8-8 and missed the playoffs entirely.
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Garcia Bronco No Keys, No Problem Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Denver Casino cash: $1743136	Cotchery's attempt a catch was great, but the ball hit the ground and popped out. That's IN-COM-PLETE!
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