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Old 04-22-2016, 10:18 AM  
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John Dorsey pre-draft press conference

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-180 players exactly on his draft board
-Clark's statement about the tampering appeal will say it all (he sounded pissed off when he said it).
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Old 04-23-2016, 05:25 PM   #121
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At this point, I wouldn't mind seeing them move up for one of the top 2 corners
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Old 04-23-2016, 05:25 PM   #122
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And if they're not?

What did I say that was trolling?
You're going to reach on a CB anyway? C'mon man. You're not THAT dumb, are you?
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Old 04-23-2016, 05:26 PM   #123
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Peters
Peters had a great season, specifically second half, but his int numbers are some good deodorant. He was good, but he was still a rookie that got beat
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Old 04-23-2016, 05:26 PM   #124
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You're going to reach on a CB anyway? C'mon man. You're not THAT dumb, are you?

I don't get it.

If a top corner is there why don't you take him?
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Old 04-23-2016, 05:26 PM   #125
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Eh, I don't think so. They gave up less yards iirc, but they were much better this past season. The entire defense was a shit ton better this year.
The defense was better in 2015 due to the addition of Tyvon Branch, the growth of Howard and the return of DJ and DeVito (even in limited snaps).

It wasn't because Eric Berry returned.
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Old 04-23-2016, 05:27 PM   #126
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Eh, I don't think so. They gave up less yards iirc, but they were much better this past season. The entire defense was a shit ton better this year.
The defense was better in 2015 due to the addition of Marcus Peters and Tyvon Branch, the growth of Howard and the return of DJ and DeVito (even in limited snaps).

It wasn't because Eric Berry returned.
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Old 04-23-2016, 05:27 PM   #127
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The defense was better in 2015 due to the addition of Tyvon Branch, the growth of Howard and the return of DJ and DeVito (even in limited snaps).

It wasn't because Eric Berry returned.
Berry had his best season as a pro which resulted in him being an all pro player.

You're underrating the impact he had
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Old 04-23-2016, 05:30 PM   #128
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The Chiefs had the fewest INT's in the league in 2014. No way were they the best.
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Old 04-23-2016, 05:31 PM   #129
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In a perfect world, sure.

But as we've seen, it's never a perfect world for the Chiefs.

And no one will ever convince me that Berry isn't overrated by Chiefs fans.
Yup.

Even with the recent bargain bin safety signings by Dorsey, I wouldn't be shocked if they draft a safety high given the underrated talent at the position this year. Might serve as a pre-emptive strike for contract negotiations with Berry. If some team offered a solid return for Berry, I'd be listening. He and Charles have the only tradeable contracts right now, while a handful of the guys near the bottom of the roster may/can be post-June cuts if we want a little wiggle room with the cap after the first couple rounds of cuts occur.
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Old 04-23-2016, 05:32 PM   #130
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Berry had his best season as a pro which resulted in him being an all pro player.

You're underrating the impact he had
I'm not underrating it, I'm just not jizzing my drawers because of it.
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Old 04-23-2016, 05:34 PM   #131
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We aren't trading Eric Berry. You can put that thought to bed, because it's not happening.
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Old 04-23-2016, 05:39 PM   #132
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We aren't trading Eric Berry. You can put that thought to bed, because it's not happening.
I doubt he is being shopped, but if teams inquired, Dorsey will listen.

The Josh Norman situation showed that nobody is untouchable.
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Old 04-23-2016, 05:55 PM   #133
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Since Pioli left the Patriots in 2008, the teams in which he's been a part of since are 37-59.

He's always been shit.
I said that in response to him taking Houston... And it was a pretty sarcastic comment from the start.
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Old 04-23-2016, 06:01 PM   #134
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Justin Houston had as much to do with our pass defense being great in 2014 as anybody on the back end.

Like all great safeties, a lot of times the contributions are hidden when it comes to Berry. He saves face A LOT. He covers up for other people's miscues.
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Old 04-23-2016, 07:06 PM   #135
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Piolis two biggest mistakes
He missed on head coaches and QBs.

You absolutely cannot do that in the NFL
And every other position. Similar to the argument I had with zilla about Herm. Good personnel guys bulid depth. We had ****all. Pioli was a disaster. Houston, Berry, Poe besides.
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