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Old 05-06-2016, 04:09 PM   #1
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I didn't know you were that open minded about child molestation.
I think PB adheres to the Bufkin-school of child rearing.
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Old 05-06-2016, 09:09 PM   #2
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I seriously question the judgment of anyone who thinks justice was served. They pretty much did away with the penalties only two years into the punishment. That after what was likely decades of abuse and cover up. Anyone who actually makes the effort to defend these people... well.
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Old 05-07-2016, 02:14 AM   #3
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I seriously question the judgment of anyone who thinks justice was served. They pretty much did away with the penalties only two years into the punishment. That after what was likely decades of abuse and cover up. Anyone who actually makes the effort to defend these people... well.
Well, I thought the ncaa sanctions were totally ridiculous. So I don't think that's the measuring stick for justice. What happened was very criminal. From an ncaa standpoint it wasn't as egregious as cheating.. Their main violation was refusal to report a crime. What unc did was way worse from a sanction standpoint but what they did wasn't criminal. Unc deserves greater sanctions while PSU should have been dealt with by the criminal justice system.

From a criminal standpoint, the two biggest culprits, Sandusky and paterno, got their justice even if paterno never saw a courtroom. I think the psu president got the hammer too. I guess we can debate about who else in the chain of command should have been punished. From a penalty standpoint, I think PSU paid out $60m to the victims..maybe more. $60m in ncaa fines. $13m in bowl penalties. And probably $5-10m in legal and or fees. Counting lost donations I'd have to think this was maybe even over $200m in penalties. Nothing to sneeze at.

You can't put a price on something this disgusting. Justice will never be served but PSU didn't get off light, that I remember of. They got the hammer.

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Old 05-07-2016, 07:51 AM   #4
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I guess we can debate about who else in the chain of command should have been punished. From a penalty standpoint, I think PSU paid out $60m to the victims..maybe more. $60m in ncaa fines. $13m in bowl penalties. And probably $5-10m in legal and or fees. Counting lost donations I'd have to think this was maybe even over $200m in penalties. Nothing to sneeze at.

You can't put a price on something this disgusting. Justice will never be served but PSU didn't get off light, that I remember of. They got the hammer.
When it comes to child molestation, fines don't matter to me. You need to spend time in a jail cell, a lot of time.
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Old 05-06-2016, 10:58 PM   #5
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Knowing the timeline is extremely important, because it established how many dozens to hundreds of kids Paterno could have saved from molestation simply by coming forward upon first knowledge.
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Old 05-07-2016, 07:22 AM   #6
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Knowing the timeline is extremely important, because it established how many dozens to hundreds of kids Paterno could have saved from molestation simply by coming forward upon first knowledge.
Allowing a child to be molested so your friend wont go to jail and embarrass yourself and the program has to be way up there on the scumbag scale.

How many of us could walk away knowing that a child was molested and not tell not tell the police?
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Old 05-07-2016, 07:29 AM   #7
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Allowing a child to be molested so your friend wont go to jail and embarrass yourself and the program has to be way up there on the scumbag scale.

How many of us could walk away knowing that a child was molested and not tell not tell the police?
It's at the very top, right under it is being a Denver Broncos fan.
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Old 05-06-2016, 11:17 PM   #8
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i think this is still relevant and important as there are lots and lots of people out there who, now that sandusky has faded into the background, want all things JoPa brought back to the forefront.

So I think it's still important to know the truth - and if the guy knew all that time, and chose to protect his buddy over doing the right thing (apparently many, many times)....his legacy deserves the black marks.
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Old 05-06-2016, 11:56 PM   #9
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I guess the only satisfaction we can take that justice may have been served in some small way here, is that Paterno in the last months of his life knew that his reputation had been destroyed over this. Nobody will ever think of him as a coach without thinking of how he failed all those children he could have protected.

Personally I'll always remember his mumbling response to all the cameras after the Sandusky thing broke where he said "if it's true, we were all fooled". He knew damn well it was true and he had known for 30 years. He was lying about it until the very end.
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Old 05-06-2016, 11:58 PM   #10
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Old 05-07-2016, 12:00 AM   #11
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it sucks what happened to the kids, but at-least they didn't have to watch Alex Smith bubble screens.
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Old 05-07-2016, 12:03 AM   #12
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it sucks what happened to the kids, but at-least they didn't have to watch Alex Smith bubble screens.
Well, I mean, it's possible that they see them on occasion.
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Old 05-07-2016, 12:03 AM   #13
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Old 05-07-2016, 12:09 AM   #14
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I must have been uninformed concerning Joe Paterno's invovlement. I could have swore I read somewhere that it was brought to him, and he sent it up the chain. Then when nothing came of his reporting it, he just ignored it from that point forward.

I'm not sure where I got that information from, but either way it's pretty awful.

He knew, and he let it continue. If he knew as early as the late 70's, that makes it even more awful. Anyone from that school that had ANY knowledge and didnt do everything within their power to make it stop should be in jail. The whole situation is just sad and despicable.
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