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Old 04-03-2016, 09:48 AM  
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And so it begins: The Royals' second straight attempt to repeat as AL Champions, and first attempt to repeat as World Series champions.

In this thread, we'll track all non-gameday action. Roster moves, prospect news, etc.

I'll start the thread as usual, with division rivals thoughts. I still like KC to repeat as AL Central champs. Here's how I see the rest of it shaking out:

2) Indians - they have the pitching (and seem to have at least semi-Kluber-ed Cody Anderson, who added 3 mph to his fastball in the offseason). Will the offense hold up? I think this is a team that ends up looking a lot like the 2014 Royals. Francisco Lindor will solidify their IF defense over the full season, and is a help with the bat. I think this club is still a year away from really breaking through - the offense still has a lot of question marks - but I like them to nab a wildcard spot.

Key Player(s): Michael Brantley. When Brantley returns - and how he hits when he does - will be critical to the Indians' ability to be good enough on offense.

Jason Kipnis. Kipnis has been an enigmatic offensive performer for the past several years. If he finally has a good offensive campaign from start to finish, Cleveland could make real noise.

Something of interest to me: For all the acclaim the Twins' farm system gets, I look at the Indians young players, and would much rather have them. Brad Zimmer is going to be a very good all-around CF. Clint Frazier has huge power potential and should arrive soon (2017). Lindor is a young stud.

3) Tigers - Old and dependent on a few stars. If Verlander and Sanchez are healthy and effective, they will be playoff contenders. I'm sure JD Martinez will continue to hit roid-aided bombs. I'm also pretty sure Victor Martinez's days as a huge power threat are gone.

Key player: Justin Verlander. Detroit people would have you believe he figured out how to succeed without his big fastball in September of last year. If that's true, and he returns to dominant form, Detroit will likely contend again.

Something of interest to me: Will Jose Iglesias stay healthy and not try to kill teammates in the dugout? His defense makes the whole group much better.

4) Twins - They won't lead the division or be in playoff contention for as long this year, but Minnesota will avoid the cellar.

Key Player: Miguel Sano. Huge power, huge K rate. Can he continue to drive the ball and be a plus offensive player? Probably needs to cut that 35 percent K percentage to do so.

Something of interest to me: Will teams challenge Sano inside with hard stuff? Working away, away, just lets his power play up. Also - will Mike Berardino continue to be the biggest beat writer homer in MLB?

5) White Sox - still managed by a shitty manager who can't control his clubhouse (The blame for the LaRoche thing really should fall on him, not the GM). Still have a shitty overall defense and a lot of douchebags on the team. They will once again look better on paper than they actually perform.

Key player: Carlos Rodon. The White Sox need Rodon to take a big step forward to make an actual move this season. He's got the talent...

And, as always, here are the prospects.

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Old 07-29-2016, 01:43 PM   #3706
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I'd be reluctant to move Herrera, as he's the next in line to be KC's closer. Whatever we do, we need to do this right. Somehow, the Yanks got a haul out of the gate. If we can do something similar, we'd set ourselves up pretty well for the next few years. Davis, Volquez, and perhaps Morales can hopefully be moved for good pieces.

Would you trade Herrera for Noah Syndergaard?

If the answer is yes, you should be willing to trade him for Giolito. Same type of elite, elite talent.


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Old 07-29-2016, 01:43 PM   #3707
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Old 07-29-2016, 01:47 PM   #3708
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So why does everybody assume we are going to be contenders in 2017 again?
I think most believe they need to address the rotation a bit better to contend next year. It's why I'm willing to move Davis for return that helps next year.

But other than that ... Primarily, you'd be looking at a bounce back for Gordon and fewer injuries/time missed. Moustakas and Cain, especially. But it's still a team that needs to add/improve in a few spots to be a legitimate contender in 2017.




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Old 07-29-2016, 03:08 PM   #3710
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I have no reason to suspect that they are, but I really hope Cain is at 100%. This season is as good as gone, praying they aren't needlessly rushing him back as a spark.
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Old 07-29-2016, 03:21 PM   #3711
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I think most believe they need to address the rotation a bit better to contend next year. It's why I'm willing to move Davis for return that helps next year.

But other than that ... Primarily, you'd be looking at a bounce back for Gordon and fewer injuries/time missed. Moustakas and Cain, especially. But it's still a team that needs to add/improve in a few spots to be a legitimate contender in 2017.




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The team would probably deny this but I also wonder if they're just running out of gas. They have played a ton of baseball the last two years. A full offseason might do them some good. We look like a beat up team.

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Old 07-29-2016, 03:25 PM   #3712
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The team would probably deny this but I also wonder if they're just running out of gas. They have played a ton of baseball the last two years. A full offseason might do them done good. We look like a beat up team.


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Old 07-29-2016, 03:42 PM   #3713
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Even if I am beating a dead horse, as of today, Eric Hosmer's 2016 fWAR is now at 0.0.

He, along with the rest of the offense, are every bit as responsible for the hole that is 2016 as the pitching. There isn't one area you can pinpoint and blame for this mess, it's all a flaming pile of AIDS.
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The team would probably deny this but I also wonder if they're just running out of gas. They have played a ton of baseball the last two years. A full offseason might do them done good. We look like a beat up team.
The Giants seem to know how to do it right.
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Would you trade Herrera for Noah Syndergaard?

If the answer is yes, you should be willing to trade him for Giolito. Same type of elite, elite talent.


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If you think he compares that well, then I would. However, I'd still prefer to move Davis in such a deal.
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Old 07-29-2016, 05:05 PM   #3718
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I think most believe they need to address the rotation a bit better to contend next year. It's why I'm willing to move Davis for return that helps next year.

But other than that ... Primarily, you'd be looking at a bounce back for Gordon and fewer injuries/time missed. Moustakas and Cain, especially. But it's still a team that needs to add/improve in a few spots to be a legitimate contender in 2017.




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Plus we've seen other teams do it (most recently the giants the year they beat us) and '17 was always projected to be "the year" anyway.

I still say injuries are the biggest issue this year, although I do think fatigue is also a part of it. They've played at least a month more games than anybody else the last two years, two months more than most of the league. That's a lot of baseball and a lot of missed recovery time. Which is the cost of winning, and in no way a bad trade-off for a championship.
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If you think he compares that well, then I would. However, I'd still prefer to move Davis in such a deal.


Oh yeah, me too. But I'd move Herrera in a heartbeat.

Giolito is one of just a few guys in the minors who actually could be projected as a future ace.

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