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Old 04-03-2016, 09:48 AM  
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And so it begins: The Royals' second straight attempt to repeat as AL Champions, and first attempt to repeat as World Series champions.

In this thread, we'll track all non-gameday action. Roster moves, prospect news, etc.

I'll start the thread as usual, with division rivals thoughts. I still like KC to repeat as AL Central champs. Here's how I see the rest of it shaking out:

2) Indians - they have the pitching (and seem to have at least semi-Kluber-ed Cody Anderson, who added 3 mph to his fastball in the offseason). Will the offense hold up? I think this is a team that ends up looking a lot like the 2014 Royals. Francisco Lindor will solidify their IF defense over the full season, and is a help with the bat. I think this club is still a year away from really breaking through - the offense still has a lot of question marks - but I like them to nab a wildcard spot.

Key Player(s): Michael Brantley. When Brantley returns - and how he hits when he does - will be critical to the Indians' ability to be good enough on offense.

Jason Kipnis. Kipnis has been an enigmatic offensive performer for the past several years. If he finally has a good offensive campaign from start to finish, Cleveland could make real noise.

Something of interest to me: For all the acclaim the Twins' farm system gets, I look at the Indians young players, and would much rather have them. Brad Zimmer is going to be a very good all-around CF. Clint Frazier has huge power potential and should arrive soon (2017). Lindor is a young stud.

3) Tigers - Old and dependent on a few stars. If Verlander and Sanchez are healthy and effective, they will be playoff contenders. I'm sure JD Martinez will continue to hit roid-aided bombs. I'm also pretty sure Victor Martinez's days as a huge power threat are gone.

Key player: Justin Verlander. Detroit people would have you believe he figured out how to succeed without his big fastball in September of last year. If that's true, and he returns to dominant form, Detroit will likely contend again.

Something of interest to me: Will Jose Iglesias stay healthy and not try to kill teammates in the dugout? His defense makes the whole group much better.

4) Twins - They won't lead the division or be in playoff contention for as long this year, but Minnesota will avoid the cellar.

Key Player: Miguel Sano. Huge power, huge K rate. Can he continue to drive the ball and be a plus offensive player? Probably needs to cut that 35 percent K percentage to do so.

Something of interest to me: Will teams challenge Sano inside with hard stuff? Working away, away, just lets his power play up. Also - will Mike Berardino continue to be the biggest beat writer homer in MLB?

5) White Sox - still managed by a shitty manager who can't control his clubhouse (The blame for the LaRoche thing really should fall on him, not the GM). Still have a shitty overall defense and a lot of douchebags on the team. They will once again look better on paper than they actually perform.

Key player: Carlos Rodon. The White Sox need Rodon to take a big step forward to make an actual move this season. He's got the talent...

And, as always, here are the prospects.

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Old 08-15-2016, 04:00 PM   #4366
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I thought Bill James wrote that Brett may be one of those exceptions but I can't remember. Years ago I listened to a national host out of NY and the topic was "Athletes you hate" and his was Brett because of all the clutch hits esp playoff games and Pine Tar etc.
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Old 08-15-2016, 04:16 PM   #4367
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I don't believe that "clutchness" really exists - the ability to raise one's game and perform even better than your best in crunch time. At least not in baseball.

But I do believe "anti-clutchness" exists ... The propensity for performing WORSE in key spots. Some guys just can't do it under the bright lights.

I do think there are some characteristics that make a hitter better in the clutch spots... Ability to work counts, batting eye, willingness to shorten up and approach the situation appropriately, etc. But that's not really "clutch." That's "smart."


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Add to that the ability to block out the things that cause anti-clutchness. Anybody who has played competitive sports understands this to be true. Either you let your nerves get the best of you or you don't. Hell, goes beyond sports even.

I do think there are a chosen few who can heighten their performance when it matters most, baseball included. Volquez in the playoffs last year was 97-98 with his fastball, and his command was better than ever. He was a different pitcher. Other more obvious examples are the elite players like Michael Jordan. It's probably more about a razor like focus for a longer period of time than anything else.
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Old 08-15-2016, 06:56 PM   #4368
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I always think of Calvin Schiraldi in the 1986 World Series. You could see in his eyes that he looked terrified.
John Starks taking FTs after Reggie Miller sank the 2 3s in 6 seconds.
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Old 08-15-2016, 08:29 PM   #4369
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Ian Kennedy now 19th in the AL in ERA. 15 teams in the AL... looks like DM nailed this one.
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Old 08-15-2016, 09:17 PM   #4370
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Royals big problem this year has been against the AL West. .333 winning percentage against the AL West. If we would have played .500 ball against them, we would have been on right in the AL Wildcard race.

Royals will be right around 85 wins IMO win the season ends.
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Old 08-15-2016, 09:31 PM   #4371
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Full disclosure: AO is my all-time favorite Royal.

I just pulled my copy of the 1984 Bill James Abstract off the shelf and re-read his wonderful essay on Otis, in which he addressed those fans for whom AO never could do enough to impress.
You wouldn't happen to have a link or know where I could read that article? Amos was also one of my favorites.
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Old 08-15-2016, 09:35 PM   #4372
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The Royals need to just keep winning. I wouldn't count them out just yet. Especially if they call up arms at the roster expansion and they replace Gee in the fifth rotation spot. If the offense can get hot, that wouldn't hurt either. Gordon may have finally hit his stride. We could really use some help from hoz, kenmo, and salvy though.
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Old 08-15-2016, 09:46 PM   #4373
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The Royals need to just keep winning. I wouldn't count them out just yet. Especially if they call up arms at the roster expansion and they replace Gee in the fifth rotation spot. If the offense can get hot, that wouldn't hurt either. Gordon may have finally hit his stride. We could really use some help from hoz, kenmo, and salvy though.
Who replaces Gee, though?

Weaknesses in the bullpen and in the fifth spot make me doubt that we have a sustainable run in us. But I thought the same thing in 2014 (for different reasons) and they shut me up with a 15-5.
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Old 08-15-2016, 09:47 PM   #4374
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Old 08-15-2016, 09:53 PM   #4375
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Who replaces Gee, though?

Weaknesses in the bullpen and in the fifth spot make me doubt that we have a sustainable run in us. But I thought the same thing in 2014 (for different reasons) and they shut me up with a 15-5.
Minor is getting stretched out. We could also look at some of our prospects that are close. Mills or Junis perhaps.
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Old 08-15-2016, 10:05 PM   #4376
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The Royals need to just keep winning. I wouldn't count them out just yet. Especially if they call up arms at the roster expansion and they replace Gee in the fifth rotation spot. If the offense can get hot, that wouldn't hurt either. Gordon may have finally hit his stride. We could really use some help from hoz, kenmo, and salvy though.

Clearly I hope you're right. But the math is really stacked against them. I'm thinking, based on last year's Astros record, your looking at a minimum of 86 wins to get a WC. So, and forgive if my math is off by a tiny bit, but I believe we would need to finish on a 28-16 run. I'm just not sure this group has that in them this year. This is not to mention about 4-5 teams ahead of us would need to finish on a mediocre at best pace.

I will consider this year a decent success if we're watching at any point in September for a reason other than evaluating prospects. If we finish above .500, that's a good season. Lest we forget this team has barely finished on the right side of .500 at all over the past 3 decades. 4 years in a row, with a championship and a runner up in there, would be huge.

But, I'd love it if they did pull the miracle. And if so, look out. I don't want any part of the new Danny Duffy if I'm an opponent in a 1 game elimination scenario
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Clearly I hope you're right. But the math is really stacked against them. I'm thinking, based on last year's Astros record, your looking at a minimum of 86 wins to get a WC. So, and forgive if my math is off by a tiny bit, but I believe we would need to finish on a 28-16 run. I'm just not sure this group has that in them this year. This is not to mention about 4-5 teams ahead of us would need to finish on a mediocre at best pace.

I will consider this year a decent success if we're watching at any point in September for a reason other than evaluating prospects. If we finish above .500, that's a good season. Lest we forget this team has barely finished on the right side of .500 at all over the past 3 decades. 4 years in a row, with a championship and a runner up in there, would be huge.

But, I'd love it if they did pull the miracle. And if so, look out. I don't want any part of the new Danny Duffy if I'm an opponent in a 1 game elimination scenario
9-5 in August and 7-3 in the last ten games. Both are in line with a 28-16 finish. We also have six games against Cleveland and eight games against Detroit to do some damage and get back into the division race.
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We need to worry about getting to .500 first. I think we'd need some help at this point. But I agree we've learned to never give up on this team. I'd just like to see them keep chipping away and get over .500 at this point. I think we can do that though... especially if Gordon and Cain can hit and Duffy/Kennedy/Ventura pitch like they have.

The most optimistic argument you can make is our schedule is not too bad. We play the Twins and White Sox a lot this last month and a half. We've played pretty well against the division so far.
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