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Old 08-25-2016, 12:17 PM  
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Browns trade OLB Mingo to the Patriots

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Old 08-25-2016, 03:11 PM   #46
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I think you're confusing me with Dane.
And *I* never said that, either.

There's a big difference between saying "There won't be a big dropoff between Ford and Houston" and saying "I have a feeling that there won't be as big a dropoff between Ford & Houston as Chiefsplanet members believe".

Some people were acting as the Chiefs would put 10 guys on the field instead of 11.
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Old 08-25-2016, 03:13 PM   #47
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you and dane fought that battle

and Fisher has done what as a #1 pick in the NFL?

please elaborate with all your knowledge:









same people who think Berry is overrated, Houston isn't great, that scrub TEs make up the league's best TE roster, amazingly can't get enough of under performing clowns like Fisher and Ford...
That whole thing started with a disagreement between me and Dane about the impact of the loss of Houston, so everything you're saying is wrong.

I've never once said that Berry is overrated or that Houston isn't great.

Good god, you're a ****ing idiot.
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Old 08-25-2016, 03:14 PM   #48
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And *I* never said that, either.

There's a big difference between saying "There won't be a big dropoff between Ford and Houston" and saying "I have a feeling that there won't be as big a dropoff between Ford & Houston as Chiefsplanet members believe".

Some people were acting as the Chiefs would put 10 guys on the field instead of 11.
Yea I knew what you meant, just pointing out that it was you that he's talking about. He's a ****ing idiot.
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Old 08-25-2016, 03:16 PM   #49
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Who knows, maybe the change of scenery will work out. I remember when KC and the 49ers made the AJ Jenkins for Jon Baldwin swap. Granted, it didn't work out for either team, but if the guy isn't helping your team, why not give him an opportunity elsewhere and get something for him. If it works out, Belicheck looks like a genius. If it doesn't, it was just a late pick anyway and more of them fail than succeed.
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Old 08-25-2016, 03:16 PM   #50
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There's a difference between looking at the situation at hand and coming to the conclusion that Berry isn't this "super leader" that he's made out to be, and saying he's overrated on the field.

Just like there's a difference in saying that he's a great safety and one of the best in the league, but that he's asking for too much $ and we should let him walk.

I have the ability to look at this situation objectively.
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Old 08-25-2016, 03:23 PM   #51
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You're a ****ing obsessed loser.

I'm not even saying Ford isn't a bust. I'm saying we don't know that going into year 3 with just 7 starts under his belt, and anybody who thinks otherwise is an impatient idiot.

But since you went there, everybody on CP was calling Fisher a pussy and a bust a year ago, and I said those same things about him. Look at where we are now.

There's a difference between being cautiously optimistic and an impatient reeruned fan with no sense of player development.
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Old 08-25-2016, 03:23 PM   #52
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If Fisher gets your panties in a twist still, just pretend they drafted Kelce in the first and Fisher in the third and get over it. It was just terrible luck to have the overall #1 pick in an absolute shit draft and they actually did as well as can be expected, all things considered. It's not like they passed over Andrew Luck to take a tackle out of the MAC.
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Old 08-25-2016, 03:25 PM   #53
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Got ya big hitter
Like usual. Nothing said. Just a few meaningless words. Can you stop randomly quoting me unless you actually have a rebuttal?
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Old 08-25-2016, 03:47 PM   #54
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If Fisher gets your panties in a twist still, just pretend they drafted Kelce in the first and Fisher in the third and get over it. It was just terrible luck to have the overall #1 pick in an absolute shit draft and they actually did as well as can be expected, all things considered. It's not like they passed over Andrew Luck to take a tackle out of the MAC.
Exactly. Probably 5 players in that entire 1st round that are any good. Just so happens that Fisher is actually turning out to be rather decent.
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Old 08-25-2016, 04:06 PM   #55
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I wonder if ansah could have stood up at olb? He's pretty athletic

I don't think it'd be ideal. He's fast- really ****ing fast- but not really fluid.

But if Tamba can do it I think Ansah could as well.
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Old 08-25-2016, 04:28 PM   #56
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Old 08-25-2016, 04:34 PM   #57
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Honestly, Is it not possible that if Mingo had been drafted to a Dorsey / reid environment things would have turned out differently for him.
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2013 NFL Draft

1. Eric Fisher: 43 starts, just signed an extension

2. Luke Joekel: 35 starts, moved from tackle to guard in 2016

3. Dion Jordan: 1 start out of 48 possible starts, suspended for a year. 3 sacks.

4. Lane Johnson: 44 starts at right tackle, 4 game suspension in 2013, extended in 2016 before 10 game suspension in 2016

5. Ziggy Ansah: 128 tackles, 30 sacks, 2015 Pro Bowler

6. Barkevious Mingo: 16 starts, 7 sacks, traded to NE.

7. Johnathan Cooper: Missed 2013 w/broken leg, 24 starts, traded to NE.

8. Tavon Austin: 25 starts, 1,133 yards, 7 TD's

9. Dee Milliner: 14 starts, 3 INT's, 30 tackles

10. Chance Warmack: 46 starts at right guard on the worst team in the NFL.
Redraft!

Leveon Bell and DeAdre Hopkins go top 10!!
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I have the ability to look at this situation objectively.
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Rofl
It's true. Am I the one talking in absolutes? Am I the one saying anything definitevly?

You guys confuse optimism with that shit. They're not the same. Keep pretending there isn't a difference though.

Edit: just realized that was in response to my Berry comment, not Ford.

If that isn't an objective take on the Berry situation, I don't know what is. Most people are on one extreme, or the other. I'm clearly not.
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