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Old 04-03-2016, 09:48 AM  
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And so it begins: The Royals' second straight attempt to repeat as AL Champions, and first attempt to repeat as World Series champions.

In this thread, we'll track all non-gameday action. Roster moves, prospect news, etc.

I'll start the thread as usual, with division rivals thoughts. I still like KC to repeat as AL Central champs. Here's how I see the rest of it shaking out:

2) Indians - they have the pitching (and seem to have at least semi-Kluber-ed Cody Anderson, who added 3 mph to his fastball in the offseason). Will the offense hold up? I think this is a team that ends up looking a lot like the 2014 Royals. Francisco Lindor will solidify their IF defense over the full season, and is a help with the bat. I think this club is still a year away from really breaking through - the offense still has a lot of question marks - but I like them to nab a wildcard spot.

Key Player(s): Michael Brantley. When Brantley returns - and how he hits when he does - will be critical to the Indians' ability to be good enough on offense.

Jason Kipnis. Kipnis has been an enigmatic offensive performer for the past several years. If he finally has a good offensive campaign from start to finish, Cleveland could make real noise.

Something of interest to me: For all the acclaim the Twins' farm system gets, I look at the Indians young players, and would much rather have them. Brad Zimmer is going to be a very good all-around CF. Clint Frazier has huge power potential and should arrive soon (2017). Lindor is a young stud.

3) Tigers - Old and dependent on a few stars. If Verlander and Sanchez are healthy and effective, they will be playoff contenders. I'm sure JD Martinez will continue to hit roid-aided bombs. I'm also pretty sure Victor Martinez's days as a huge power threat are gone.

Key player: Justin Verlander. Detroit people would have you believe he figured out how to succeed without his big fastball in September of last year. If that's true, and he returns to dominant form, Detroit will likely contend again.

Something of interest to me: Will Jose Iglesias stay healthy and not try to kill teammates in the dugout? His defense makes the whole group much better.

4) Twins - They won't lead the division or be in playoff contention for as long this year, but Minnesota will avoid the cellar.

Key Player: Miguel Sano. Huge power, huge K rate. Can he continue to drive the ball and be a plus offensive player? Probably needs to cut that 35 percent K percentage to do so.

Something of interest to me: Will teams challenge Sano inside with hard stuff? Working away, away, just lets his power play up. Also - will Mike Berardino continue to be the biggest beat writer homer in MLB?

5) White Sox - still managed by a shitty manager who can't control his clubhouse (The blame for the LaRoche thing really should fall on him, not the GM). Still have a shitty overall defense and a lot of douchebags on the team. They will once again look better on paper than they actually perform.

Key player: Carlos Rodon. The White Sox need Rodon to take a big step forward to make an actual move this season. He's got the talent...

And, as always, here are the prospects.

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Old 09-16-2016, 06:53 AM   #5401
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Old 09-16-2016, 07:29 AM   #5402
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Welp, looks like another 30 years.
Unfortunately the next 5 or so will be probably be with Yost
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Old 09-16-2016, 07:31 AM   #5403
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It has been great to see the starting pitchers decide the season was over. Have those F sticks even been trying lately. Come on man.
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Old 09-16-2016, 07:35 AM   #5404
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Lots of ways you can slice and dice the failure in 2016.


Just a weird thing. And a nice anecdote to why run differential is something you have to look at in context with the Royals.

Yeah, the run differential of -37 says they've far outplayed their expected record. But getting blitzed by two bad teams from the AL West (worse than they did against the best team in that division) is pretty random.


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Old 09-16-2016, 07:53 AM   #5405
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Unfortunately the next 5 or so will be probably be with Yost
No. I will be shocked if Ned Manages past 2017 (when this Team's run will be over). I think we re-stock the missing parts and make a run for the Hardware next season. After that, I think Edgar will be ready to do nothing more than Hunt, Fish and Mow Grass.
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Old 09-16-2016, 08:21 AM   #5406
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It has been great to see the starting pitchers decide the season was over. Have those F sticks even been trying lately. Come on man.
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Old 09-16-2016, 08:42 AM   #5407
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No. I will be shocked if Ned Manages past 2017 (when this Team's run will be over). I think we re-stock the missing parts and make a run for the Hardware next season. After that, I think Edgar will be ready to do nothing more than Hunt, Fish and Mow Grass.


Yeah. And while the Royals online verse likes to freak out about payroll and how there's no room under the current payroll to plug holes in 2017, I look at a move like bringing up Jason Vargas for this season - a move that voids the $6 million insurance payment on him in a season in which they have no chance and he can't make a difference - and think that Glass is probably going to green light another payroll increase, at least for 2017.


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Old 09-16-2016, 09:08 AM   #5409
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Yeah. And while the Royals online verse likes to freak out about payroll and how there's no room under the current payroll to plug holes in 2017, I look at a move like bringing up Jason Vargas for this season - a move that voids the $6 million insurance payment on him in a season in which they have no chance and he can't make a difference - and think that Glass is probably going to green light another payroll increase, at least for 2017.


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Here is how the Vargas insurance situation was explained to me. The Royals’ insurance policy covered all but the first 60 days of the season and was based on the number of days that Vargas missed. If he would have missed the whole season, the policy would have covered about $6 million of his $8.5 million salary. But Vargas returning in September won’t affect the policy at all. The insurance payouts will simply stop if and when he returns to the active roster.
I read that as, by this point the payments have, or virtually have, maxed out. Flanagan tweeted the same thing back in July.
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Old 09-16-2016, 09:19 AM   #5410
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I read that as, by this point the payments have, or virtually have, maxed out. Flanagan tweeted the same thing back in July.


Ah, I missed that. That makes sense, then.

Still won't be surprised if the payroll is increased by a large amount again, into the 140s.

Last shot at true contention with this group, super cheap players slated for several spots moving forward.


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Ah, I missed that. That makes sense, then.

Still won't be surprised if the payroll is increased by a large amount again, into the 140s.

Last shot at true contention with this group, super cheap players slated for several spots moving forward.


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Ah, I missed that. That makes sense, then.

Still won't be surprised if the payroll is increased by a large amount again, into the 140s.

Last shot at true contention with this group, super cheap players slated for several spots moving forward.


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Ah, I missed that. That makes sense, then.

Still won't be surprised if the payroll is increased by a large amount again, into the 140s.

Last shot at true contention with this group, super cheap players slated for several spots moving forward.


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Ah, I missed that. That makes sense, then.

Still won't be surprised if the payroll is increased by a large amount again, into the 140s.

Last shot at true contention with this group, super cheap players slated for several spots moving forward.
Another playoff run in 2017 will keep ratings up in 2018 while negotiating the new TV deal.
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Royals finished 10-24 against the AL West. That is why we aren't in the playoff hunt.

Indians, White Sox, and Twins all have winning records against the AL West. Detroit is at .500. If we were even .500 with the AL West, tied for the Wild card spot right now.
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